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I need advice...Help

Ian — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:25:03 GMT

I am 16, i started playing wow when i was about 14, In the beginning of this addiction i was completely absorbed into this game, I got involved in "Raiding" which requires me to be online for long periods of time, when i was playing my parents would ask for my help with something, And the response to this would be "Gimmie a minute, hold on please" My parents know these sayings well. Also while i was playing it effected my Social life very much i would blow off plains with my friends, even deny dates with girls! It was horrible. My grades in school were horrid because of this "Video Game", This went on for about a year and a half in till i finally realized what was going on, I quit, it felt great while i was off of this game, i actually started hanging out with friends talking to girls, and school was going pretty smooth, But now... I am getting back into it, its starting out small not getting to sucked in, but its starting to get worse like before, i Don't want this to happen again, But its just so hard to quit, i know this sounds stupid, but its actually like im addicted to a drug, Any advise on how to stop or get my mind off of this game?? Please help. Thank you for your time. ----------------------Ian

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This game has totally ruined my marriage

Dana — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:21:11 GMT

We were in a rocky situation anyway before my husband found this game. Since then things have totally went downhill. My husband is so addicted to this game that I have nothing to turn to. He misses work to play this game. He stays up all night long without sleeing to play this game, then wants to sleep the whole day away. When he wakes up he goes straight to the game. He suffers from headaches, but says it is not because of the game. He has the crappiest attitude when he is not playing. When he does play he pays no attention to me or anything/anyone around him. He is in his own world. Everything is getting neglected. I've considered calling and having our internet disconnected to save our marriage.

I understand he has friends on there that he likes to talk to. I have online friends as well, but they do not consume my life. I can turn the computer off at any moment and be okay. When we have to go somewhere and I tell my husband he always needs 10 more minutes..that turns into 2 hours. Everything depends on his status in the game. Heaven forbid an emergency come up and he HAS to shut it off. I'd be scared to know what he would choose in such a situation.

How do I get help for him? He refuses to admit he's addicted. He just doesn't see it. It is way too apparent. Help!!! I would hate to see this marriage end in divorce over some fantasy game.

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I FREAKING HATE THIS STUPID F***ING GAME

Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:43:58 GMT

UGGHHHHHH!!!!!!! I need to vent. I obviously cannot vent to family members/friends because I don't want them knowing my business or even to my own husband who is not listening to me. I understand he needs/wants a hobby outside of family and working but when a "hobby" becomes more like a part-time job, it's out of control. He is crabby and short-tempered when he's not playing (which could be due to quitting smoking too recently), he ignores me and would rather play the game, and is in a complete zone when he is playing. I could tell him or ask him anything and he would just look up briefly with a glazed look and nod and go back to playing. This all started a little over a month ago and he is becoming a changed person. Just venting and needed to ge this off my chest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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why wow doesnt suck and youre wrong for hating it

james — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:55:28 GMT

it is human nature to be addicted (more so in men). to be honest, its better than being addicted to alcohol or gambling or anything like that, right?
and if your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife/log/frog/son/daughter/ball or whoever is addicted, just put a virus on the computer. before u complain read on: you then get a replacement one and they have to reinstall it, which trust me takes ages (oh, btw this works better if its under warranty ^^) it takes freakin days to install, without the 2, soon 3 expansion packs.
that'll piss em off a bit.
this is no-where near as bad as COD6. at least it doesnt make you a violent brain dead tard (not all of the players, just the 100% addicts.). in wow at least you learn new words and learn to speak to new people and how to deal with tards in a civilised manner. COD6, well you learn how to speak to new people: "SHOOT HIM!!!! KILL THE BITCH!!!!!!111 YOU RETARD!!!!!" etc as you cant stop for a debate in the middle of a shoot em up. and the only vocab you learn is names of guns......
for the howerver many people on ere complaining WOW TOOK MY HUSBAND etc, its human nature, and yeah try to get him to a clinic or something like that, to stop him playing. i played it for 3 groups of 6 months, the first 6 months i was excited, the second i was enjoying it and slightly addicted, and the third i pretty much stopped playing it, so it just depends what kind of person your dealing with here.
yes there are extreme cases, like a kid who commited suicide to be with the Heroes in WOW, and there was another crazy case but i forget. basically it isnt the games fault all in all, just think it could be a lot worse , say theyre addicted to eating human flesh etc.

bai ^^

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Don't think you understand

Dan — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:12:08 GMT

Many of you posting here I just don't think you understand.
WoW isn't merely a game, its a social network as well, You talk to your friends there like you would over AIM. You get a feeling of accomplishment when you get new armor or kill a demon your group hasn't before. If you are in a guild, as an officer, you DO have a responsibility. If your lover is in a raid guild YES HE LOOSES OUT IF THEY MISS A RAID.

You should all be thankful your objects of rage arent addicted to heroin, or alcohol, they stay home, usually with you, just not conversing with you rather then go off gallivanting somewhere else.

Take my case of my 200 or so guild members (and others on my server) I have 28 people I went to college with, that are all over the world, Only place we get together, azeroth. another 16 or so people I went to high school with and many other countless people Ive befriended on AIM or a forum somewhere or a chat room on Donovan.

The problem isnt with those playing wow its with your self esteem. IF they gave up Wow, guess what, they'd be watching the red sox or Patriots or god forbid basketball, or going golfing or to the bar anything! You all seem to be blaming WoW, when Wow is just their choice to escape. Maybe at work their boss is a jerk, they get yelled at and berated all day, and rather then come home and fooking flip out on you when you ask about stuff, they go and slay dragons instead.

Humans need escape from their daily lives, thats why we invented Sports, and Music, and Theatre, and the best video game that has ever been produced, and stands to change the face is video games FOREVER: World of Warcraft

less QQ and more Pew Pew Noobs and LRN2HEAL, we need some more priests for our raids! We'll get you EPIX and help you to become UBER1337!

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is wow the matrix?

bonkersthebeenie — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:23:31 GMT

I think it could be (or it could be very like it or a prototype or something) ... what do others think?

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WTF?

Jasmine — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:27:45 GMT

well my fiance plays this game RELIGIOUSLY and it's kinda getting annoying! One day he told me he was going to try this game out, but that he wouldn't get addicted... but a year, and almost a relationship later, what do you know... he's ADDICTED! If I ask him to come see me for a minute, it's as if I'm cutting off his life support. I can see our marriage 20 years form now... "hang on hunny I'll be right there after this instance"... it's starting to get very old and its wearing me out! I throw EVERYTHING aside for him to make sure he's happy, but yet he wont get off that god forsaken game for 5 minutes with out worrying about a quest!!!!! I love him but god forbid him ever take a break from that ****ing game! I'm just getting sick and tired of it... Does anyone have any advise?

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Alienation of affection.

Andrea — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:42:29 GMT

I'm new to this whole WOW thing. My husband started playing about 8 months ago. It seemed fine for awhile. He didnt have much fun to start, but the more he "levels" the more addicted he has become! At first, I thought there was something wrong in our marriage, and I tried to figure it out. I came to realize it wasn't the marriage, it was the GAME! He started staying up later and later, looking for any free moment to play. So, I backed off. I figured he'd get bored after a month or so like he does with most games. But he didn't. So I thought, it would be easy to ask him to put time limits on it. 2 days a week, he can play all day, and every other weekend he can play another full day, or BOTH days if we dont have plans. He agreed. He even said he understood how I felt. It was FINE he said. Here I am 2 weeks after he agreed, and STILL he hasnt changed. Everyday for the last 2 weeks he has been playing, every chance he gets. I am angry, and frustrated. Nothing about this is normal. He stays up late, goes into work late, he is on it when I wake up in the morning, and on it when I go to bed at night. We cant leave the house until he gets to a "safe place". And during a raid if I say ANYTHING to him, he ignores it. All intimacy has gone right out the window. I started wondering today if their were other people who felt this way about their significant others, and thats how I ended up here. Its good to talk about it, even if noone reads it, and even if all the responses I get come from WOW players who troll these sights in their spare time. My husband has NO spare time that is taken up by anything EXCEPT World of Warcraft, with the exception of checking his email.

Alienation of affections is a tort action brought by a deserted spouse against a third party alleged to be responsible for the failure of the marriage. The defendant in an alienation of affections suit is typically an adulterous spouse's lover, although family members, counselors, or clergy members who have advised a spouse to seek divorce have also been sued for alienation of affections.

I cant wait to see some enterprising "WOW widow", try to use that one in court!!!

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WOW is the new ADDICTION

WOW Hater — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:09:44 GMT

I have never witnessed a grown man destroy his life like my now ex. Professionally employed, smart and kind - he is now an overweight, lazy LOSER!!! He would rather play his game than play with me!!!!! Every day after work - walked in - walk downstairs - change - sit and play WOW. God forbid I interrupt him while he was in a guild thing! I think it's many losers playing together. What happened to living life! I hope WOW dies!!!! 12 years in the toilet! WOW makes people FAT - LAZY - STUPID - ANTISOCIAL I bet they will start a program for WOW addiction next!

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im sick of this game

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:21:34 GMT

wow is a good escape from reaility .....for a while. After u hit 80 u can either spend months trying to get decent gear or get lucky and gear up fast, leaving you with really nothing to do on the game except make an alt, which i cannot even bear the thought of. In fact I can't believe i actually spent all that time levelling my character normally when people can just use a Bot program to get to 80 and then sell their toons. There is really no fair system to get loot, and guild leaders and their mates will almost always get the new loot first. PvP arena is a fucking joke for most cloth casters and some of the class imbalances and player skill level matchups are insane. (warrior v mage, lock v rogue anyone?)
For example , this is usually how my whole raiding week goes for....wait around for toc 25 , get no loot, do ony , no loot, buy vendor gear with hard earned emblems knowing ill probably get a better drop next week, attempt a hard mode toc whos difficulty is like a shot in the face and get saved to either none or one boss, and have to wait till tuesday for the raid reset. Oh, try ulduar with a fail pug or a guild that never gets around to continuing it. Maybe im just bad or its a bad server too, but this game seems really really horrible and its the ridiculous loot system that keeps people waiting around hoping to get some decent stuff.

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Are you all serious?

john — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:50:34 GMT

Pathetic. Stop blaming a video game because you're stuck with a shitty boyfriend/husband. I play WoW a few hours a week, but I could drop the damn thing without a second look whenever I wanted. I already plan on canceling it when my girlfriend gives birth to our first child. Quit bitching about how much you allow a video game to ruin your life and go find someone who will actually stop banging a keyboard long enough to bang you. There's nothing I hate more than people who don't hold themselves to account.

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a way that wow could be seen as a good thing

bonkersthebeenie — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:53:53 GMT

I used to play online video games.

Wow came on the scene of what at the time was a plethora of thriving and widely varied games - some that were more friendly to the casual gamer and some that weren't.

These games died off - new games since Wow (with a few exceptions) don't seem to catch on.

Wow has redefined the genre and become the new standard so that if you didn't like wow you probably won't be too excited about any of the other games coming out either because "if they don't do it like wow they are doing it wrong".

The hard-edged demands of the top raiding groups from these games has become popularized and widespread and has become an expectation in order to even play the game past certain levels which does make it worse than other games in my opinion - where there were always those top guilds or players or groups - but also plenty of casual people beneath them who didn't feel compelled to meet the grinding and life encroaching demands of "serious gamerz" but could still play the GAME.

Is this why I hate wow?

Maybe yeah - but it's also why I should thank wow for getting me out of gaming (well I never was that serious - but I did spend a couple hours a night at one point in games like this - until it got way too serious and stopped being a game).

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These are real people

golephish — Thu, 15 May 2008 16:35:38 GMT

my buddy Brian and I have a friend named mike. he is obsessed with this damn game. on many occasions he has blown us off, or been late to hang out cause he 'made a a commitment tot the real people' -- he actually honors this bogus commitment to people in a stupid video game then with his friends. that's so lame.

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i need advice from everyone.....please

ashlee — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:42:50 GMT

this is my situation. my boyfriend used to play addictivly and we broke up. now he no longer raids and he only plays when i am not at home and when i am asleep. if i wake up and see him playing it enrages me. i don't know how to get over it. i think he hurt me so bad and it was b/c he was playing so much he didn't want to do anything. now we do do things. we go out, watch movies, hang with friends and he does not play that much and especially not like he used to. i think my old feelings toward this game could ruin our relationship. b/c he as a person has changed and you can do anything in moderation it is just seeing it makes me think it is goign to be relapse and start ignoring me again.

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This game Sucks

Ashari — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:56:06 GMT

My husband is a gamer and that I was cool with, he would only play for about two hours or so a day.
Then one day his friend said why not try out WOW, I was like no no no, this is the relationship ending game and we're already having problems. He says I'll just do the trial, I promise I wont get additcted.
So that was like 4 months ago, he bought the game after the trial ened and then promised me he would only play 3 days out of the week. Now it's "I need my me time" and I'll spend time with you at dinner.
I literally only see my husband for a few moments each day. When we wake up in the morning and if he has time he'll sneek in a little wow time before work. Then he gets home and if I try to spend a few moments then , I get the "I need some down time", a little down time turns into 5pm to about 9pm , and I might see him for dinner, unless he's doing a instance and I'll be dinning alone he comes out grubs and runs back into his room, or he'll eat right infront of the computer, on top of this he smokes so if he's got a good game going my room smells like a bar. He will play not stop all week, then the weekend comes and I can only hope to get maybe a few mintues with him. I spend just about every night of the week alone on my couch watching TV... And this is only the 4 month mark.
Oh and if I want some computer time I get the biggest freak out ever, Like I don't spend anytime with him.
I hate this game and I can only pray that one day My husband will turn around and see that he still ahs a wife and she isn't going to wait forever.

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He picked WoW over me...

Rhian — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:43:43 GMT

This may be ridiculously long but I am writing as part of my healing process. So here it is: I still remember the day he placed the game in my hands at Best Buy just days before Christmas in 2007. I rolled my eyes but knew he only played his video games about 3 hours twice a month so no big deal. On Christmas day, he got pissed that we were out doing family stuff b/c he wanted to upload his game. I cried all the way home, wishing I was spending Christmas with my family in Colorado instead. At that point, we had been married 2 years and had moved back to Washington to be near his friends. He started playing Christmas day and life was never the same. Somehow I pried him away a couple week later just long enough to conceive our first and only child. I found out I was pregnant on January 25th and I got laid off from my relatively high paying job a week later. I qualified for the highest unemployment so in order to match that, I would have had to get a job at Starbucks for about 60 hours a week (while prego!) so I continued to look for work while building my own business and collecting unemployment. Not once did he offer to get a second job to help make ends meet, only yelled at me that I was a loser, living off the government. At that point, he was playing about 70 hours a week (yes, SEVENTY!) His best friend lived with us at the time and would try to get him to hang out but he wouldn't.

I spent the first 6 months of my pregnancy crying myself to sleep, alone in our bed, about 6 nights a week. When I had enough, we tried different "WoW schedules" but they never worked b/c when he wasn't playing, he was annoyed that he "had" to spend time with me. Let me assure you that prior to WoW, we were actually a pretty happy couple, loved eachother very much, went to church, had a social life, etc but that all went away. By June 2008, we had tried several combinations of WoW schedules and I finally begged him to take a break. I told him that WoW was a whore in our marriage. I started to call it "her" b/c he cared more for "her" and to spend time with "her" than he did with me. He agreed to take a break and we started counseling. The counseling went well but partially b/c we didn't seem to have as many problems--he was now going to bed at a decent hour, getting more than 2-4 hours of sleep, cuddling with me, feeling the baby in my tummy...life was pretty good...except that he talked about playing WoW practically every day at first and eventually it dwindled to about twice a week. Things like, "do you think I will ever be able to play again?" And every time he asked, I felt like he was asking if I minded if he slept with someone else...literally! It was a punch in the gut EVERY time and I would often cry when he asked and he would get mad and say that I was overreacting.

The baby was born at the end of September and when she was 2 weeks old, he asked to play WoW again on a limited schedule. He asked practically every day. When she was about a month old, I finally gave in but requested that he write me a "WoW Playing Guidelines Contract". He started and it was never as bad as it was those first 6 months but there were constant compromises such as, "I had to work until 8pm on one of my WoW days so I'm gonna play on a non-WoW day". We actually had to write in the contract that he wouldn't intentionally start fights w/me to play WoW and if we were in an arguement, he couldn't play (to prove it wasn't intentional)

By June 2009, when the baby was 9 months old, I had to get a live in nanny b/c he wouldn't help me with the baby or ANY household chores. He was either working (but never more than 40 hours) or playing WoW and if he did spend time with us, he was short and irritable. By August, I was so lonely and felt like a single mother and didn't want my baby growing up thinking that daddy's live in front of the computer. I filed for divorce and then the 20-30 hours went back up to 50-60 hours (which he still denies). The closer it gets to our divorce day, the more frustrated and devastated I feel that a stupid computer game actually ruined us! I tried to retract and reconcile. We admitted we love eachother very much but he said, if I won't allow WoW in our marriage then the marriage is over.

That was 2 weeks ago. He moved into his one bedroom apartment this week. He can now be alone with his addiction. Our house will go into foreclosure b/c I still haven't found a job and my startup businesses are still struggling to stay afloat. I will move into my friends garage. He won't pay child support b/c he still won't get a second job to provide for his daughter (b/c it would take away from his WoW time). I needed him in the last 2 years more than I have ever needed anyone in my life...but apparently his guilds needs overpowered his wife and child.

I will ALWAYS blame WoW for the dissolution of our marriage. I hate it and I just hope that someday, he sees his addiction and can overcome it so that he can find happiness in the here and now, real world of people that love him and want to spend time with him, touch him, laugh with him, talk with him and spend the rest of their life with him. Maybe...just maybe...

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Dame's Wife

Michelle — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:18:48 GMT

I totally think that this game has taken over my husband's life. It is sad that he is visiting people he has only talked to online. It is sad that we can't go out for dinner because he has to play. He even has told others on World of Warcraft he loves them through text messages. That was a knife in my heart. Worst of all, he ignored his own daughter when she was sitting at the screen door crying for him. All because he was too busy playing Word of Warcraft! I hope that all gamers take a minute and say" I love you" to your family, give them an extra kiss because they need you more than the game! Do you really want to live with your life regretting the fact that you missed your daughters first steps, first words, or even first birthday, all because you had to play Word of Warcraft. Please for the sake of your families and loved ones, think twice before you choose the game over the people who truly matter in your life, YOUR FAMILY!

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im so sick of this game!

Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:27:39 GMT

This game is driving me nuts. I have been with my boyfriend for only 3 months and wow is already becoming an issue. My boyfriend has been playing wow for over a year, I understand that this is what he likes to do, but seriously, it needs to stop at some point. I get pissed off about his raid nights, but I have learned to accept them, but when I am over there and its not a raid night and he starts playing..wtf?! I didnt visit him just so I could bond with his TV or roommate, I came to see him, and when he cant leave his computer to hang out with me, it just hurts my feelings. There was one night I spent the night in his room, he knew i was spending the night there cause my roomie had her boyfriend over, so I was kicked out of my room. It was not a raid night or anything, and he still played until 5 in the morning. I stay up the whole time too cause I would take any interaction I coult get with him, I talked to his roommate for hours, and it just freakin sucked. whenever I try to bring it up he says "well youre not a gamer, you wouldnt understand", well he doesnt freaking understand either. Hes not the one getting ditched or ignored.He gets so damn defensive about this game, its ridiculous. And if hes not playing wow, then hes watching videos about it or making his own videos and that takes forever as well. I really do no know what to do, and no I dont want to leave him, we have a great relationship besides this game issue, just any tips would be nice.
oh and also, for the gamers that come into these forums and bitch at the "whiners", well fuck you, i came here to try to find people with a similar problem so i can vent about it. I dont need you to make me feel worse. Yeah maybe us non-gamers dont "get it", well neither do you.

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You guys can't be serious

Maci — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:18:50 GMT

I've read some of the stories here and gotten a good laugh, not at the situation, but at the poster's stupidity to aim their hate on the game.

Stop to think it's not the game, it's the players and their level of self-control. People just find it so much easier to put the blame on something else, huh? If a player wants to be a moron about it and not listen to what anyone has to say then it's THEIR fault. Not the game's. A player can choose to let a game consume them. Or not. You pick.

The object that you're suppose to aim your hatred on is your significant other. All these post about WoW ruining their relationship...think twice. It's not the game, it's your significant other. Everybody reacts differently to this game. If the player becomes addicted to this game THAT badly, it's a red flag that he/she might have a real problem - addictive personality.

Writing to Blizzard and telling them to discontinue this game is LOL.
Seek professional help if your relationship has reached an all time low. Because it's obvious that these players need to have a little of reality slapped into them.

You can't tell me that I'm wrong, because I'm not. Get it over your thick head. You've held a grudge against this game long enough, time to let go.

I play WoW - I go to college, I have a summer job, and I've been with my BF for 2 years (and counting). Go ahead and try to blame the game now?

Hate the player, not the game.

BTW, here's a link to the game. 10 day free trial if anybody is interested lol
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/trial/index.html

Enjoy!

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He Chose WoW Over Me

Trevor — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:05:57 GMT

I've only been with my boyfriend about four months, and I knew he was into WoW before I met him. I just never really knew what it was or the extent of his obsession. He's also into Dungeons & Dragons and Renaissance Fairs and basically anything escapist. I am not. At first I thought it was cute. No, being into Q-bert or Grand Theft Auto is cute, WoW is just sad.

While he continuously assures me he is very much into our relationship, he does so only when I have his undivided attention and I am pressing him to display an interest. In his own time he shows absolutely no interest and makes no gestures and I couldn't really figure out why. I thought maybe he was just clueless, maybe he was absent minded, then I noticed a trend. He would generally spend Saturday nights at my place, and although Sunday is our mutual day off, he would always rush home.

After three weeks of pushing him to show a genuine interest in our relationship, yesterday I gave him what will most likely be his last chance. I wanted him to spend his day off with me - go for a walk, sit in the park, go to a museum, SOMETHING three dimensional that we both could share. Not only did he not go for it, he couldn't understand why a couple should want to spend their mutual day off together. He thought he should be able to do his "own thing". We do our own thing all the time, but if I'm going to be in a relationship I'd like to get to know my boyfriend.

Instead of spending the day together we rushed through lunch and then he wanted to go home. I pretty much laid out my feelings then and there, and while I didn't address WoW specifically, I told him how absurd it was that he was choosing an afternoon alone at home over the person he won't see for another week. I could sense his agitation, but not over my comments, over the game awaiting him at home. He couldn't wait to get on the subway.

He could have salvaged the relationship he claims to cherish, all he had to do was compromise one Sunday for me. I essentially told him it was over, I was done, that I didn't want to date him anymore unless he was willing to make a gesture. And on the brink of breaking up, he rushed me through the last part of the conversation, told me to sleep on it, and rushed home to play WoW. He chose WoW over potentially saving his relationship. I can compete for attention with family and friends but I'm not going to be blown off for a video game.

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World of Warcraft: Public Enemy Number One?

Roy — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:04:48 GMT

Hi,

I am a 21 year old female gamer. I am currently in college, work, do not have any serious social problems (whether romantic or platonic), and have been paying for my very own World of Warcraft account for about two years now. I own both Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King - I missed out on Blizzcon tickets (very upset) and I am sincerely hoping Worgen will be a new playable race (for the Horde!) in an expansion I hope involves the Great Sundering. If the computers in the world exploded I would have my Heinlein and nightclubs - suffer not would I. I am a (proud) nerd. I am not an addict. My real name is not Roy, it's just a nickname, by the way. I apologize for being a one-time-first-time-poster, I know lots of communities don't like that.

I'm very run-of-the-mill, I view World of Warcraft strictly as a hobby, because it is a hobby. Just like Magic Cards, Dungeons and Dragons, Comic Books, and collecting porcelain salt-and-pepper shakers. I love this game, and I spend far more time playing it than I should, but I have a balance between it and my real life. My family, and friends, and lovers have always come first. I count maybe three of my friends on WoW as important as my real life friends, and I'd do about anything to help them out (as they would for me).

That being said, World of Warcraft is addicting. Everything is addicting. Lots of people have addicting or subversive personalities which cause them to misplace energies into a "safe-zone". World of Warcraft is not like drugs, or alcohol, or anorexia. Those addictions are guaranteed a terrible life choice. Those addictions will nine times out of ten get you into something that will kill you. World of Warcraft is a completely different kind of addiction, although for sometimes the same reasons as the terrible ones.

My father and sister think I'm an addict, but that's only because when they decide to randomly pop by it's my down time - time I reserve for playing WoW. I do get off the game and spend time with them, but because they basically "walk in on me with my pants down" (so to speak), I guess it doesn't look so good. They don't know me, or try to know me. They don't know how hard I work on getting my foot in the door of many a corporation, or being taken seriously as a collegue. They see me that way because they don't understand me, which is the root of most uncalled for prejudice in the world. My mom and friends (females too) support my hobby - they think it's unique and interesting. I probably get being a nerd from my mom (who is a business woman, but loves Stargate beyond any other show).

I understand needing a place to feel safe on your own, to express frustrations when you feel this is too much. The Internet was created for the free exchange of ideas, blogs and what some people in WoW call "QQing" are bound to happen. I think it's wrong to demonize a game for personal behaviour (I'm sorry, I'm really not judging anyone, it's just how I feel). It's commonly known that World of Warcraft freely advocates turning off the computer and spending time outside it. You can blame cigarette companies for marketing a product that gives people Cancer, you can't blame a company (Blizzard) for marketing a hobby where a good percentage of their patrons are regularly functioning adults (and kids with moderation and proper parental controls). Don't blame the game, blame the gamer. Blizzard has no reason to curb its new releases, it would cheat everyone else that has the ability to see beyond the screen, it might be for profit, it might be for the love of their own hobby. The creators of Blizzard are not megacorporation wallstreet masterminds, they're happy nerds like ... well I guess not you ... but me.

I fully support getting help with a WoW addiction, I support communities that provide constructive criticism and understanding. I also support understanding why a person sinks into WoW addiction, and knowing them well enough before moving in or getting married as far as possible vices or issues. I've known young men that have sunk hours into this game because they've dealt with awkward social problems, and I've actually put a foot forward and a hand out to listen to those frustrations, and to help them set the game down and go outside for social interaction. I've known a middle-aged woman, who was very delusional about the status of her married life and as such joined an RPPVP (role-play-player-versus-player) Server. She created an entire family there, a husband, children (she has children in real life), and even a "mister" to have an affair with behind her RP husband's back. I've known people that have spent thousands of dollars on in-game currency and Spectral Tiger mounts. WoW addiction is real, but the first step is identifying whether they're addicted or whether it's a hobby you don't understand and simply hate. If they're addicted (one or more of these symptoms: lack of job, sleep, exercise, affection) - and be realistic when you evaluate the person, you could just exaggerate the issues because you resent it so much - pull the plug. Don't even give them a choice, really. Tell them to say goodbye to their friends for now (keep in touch VIA email/phone), and that they've pulled wife/husband aggro. People in-game will understand.

I don't suggest doing this during a raid, or arena, those are kind of important. Think of it like playing in a chess tournament or a dog show - but on a regular basis and they get really cool gear and end-game content. Think of this like a hobby. Yes, I am defending the game, and not because I play it. I had this opinion before I started playing it - maybe it's just an inborn nerd thing. This is the fault of both parties, personal responsibility, but you have all heard that from various trolls (not the cool ones) hopping in here and being really angry because you taunted them and kited them away from being angry at wiping on Yogg. I'll be honest, when I read some of these (and I have for awhile), I feel a little targeted, even indirectly. I feel as though a lot of people are making sweeping generalizations based on a few people they know. It's not the intent, or the point of this community, but it would be nice to see more than just raging and blaming and not looking at the bigger picture (sometimes it's not all their fault, the environment is very influential). I don't know any of you personally, but I think that when you post about the person you're basically e-bullying, maybe thought needs to be given into their current psychological opinion (and should be brought to light). You're with them, related or involved, so there has to be something more to the situation if you know them at all.

Sometimes there isn't, sometimes they're just stupid and need to be kicked out. I understand that, I think it's an important option for anyone to consider. If this is the case, you're too good for their mess, but don't hate on every gamer since because of it. Rise above, please. Speaking of rising above, calling people virgins or losers or so on and so forth when someone nerdrages here doesn't really do much. It makes the average gamer laugh (myself included). Mostly because ... we're not, but also it's a really low blow (we relish in stereotypes). I mean, yeah they made the wrong move calling people stupid or ignorant - it's tactless and really very typical of most "e-peens" in game. It doesn't do anything, and to be honest when you post something nasty and "derogatory" in response (WoWers are so much more capable of being so much nastier), we kind of get a kick out of it. I'm sorry! It's part of being a forum troll, so sometimes the situation would be better off if you just ignored them (they don't know you, they can't judge you), or if you just shrugged and said, "I respect your opinions, please respect mine."

I'm telling you this because real trolls will find this community, and they will troll every living being in this place - which should be a safe haven for those misunderstood and misunderstanding. You can do with what I'm saying what you will.

Roy Out, Live Long and Prosper

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World of Warcraft is taking over my relationship! I wish it would crash!

Sara — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:56:33 GMT

My fiance and I have been together for 3 years and everything has been great until last January. My fiance use to play Diablo 2 alot but it didn't bother me that bad because he still would make time for me and our kids. When he started WoW I was cool with it, now it is taking over his life. I try to talk to him sometimes and he never hears me because of that game. When I want to spend time in the bed room with him he would say let me just finish killing these 3 boses or something now he just says I'm not in the mood. On July 15th it made three years for us but he scheduled a raid or something and "couldn't get out of it" We're a supose to get married in October but why should we bother now WoW is clearly more important to him then me and his kids. I want my fiance back and my children want daddy back!

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Wow addictive qualities ended my relationship

cerritos — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:42:25 GMT

Meridith, I feel your pain. When I read your post I was blown away at the similarities of our situations. I too had a bi-coastal relationship and my fiance (or so I thought) became hooked into WoW and all the traits that you are writing of, he exhibited. I was absolutely in denial about the addiction that he has and rather summed it up and blamed myself - just as you are, that I wasn't good enough to keep his interest or that he just needed to relax, he is a doctor, and that was his escape from the harshness he sees daily. But whatever the case, this gamer was so pathetic that the game became his only focus and so he ended our relationship without even telling me, and telling his mommy to tell me that, he just didn't have the time to call me. This is a man who lead me to believe that we would have children together, HE had even picked out names, all without encouragement from me. He built a fantasy world for me, I suppose since he lives in a fantasy world it's all he knows. Totally detached. I even discovered several text messages from his 2 kids (who live opposite coastline) begging for him to return calls and asking why daddy doesn't call them or tell them he loves them. His own mother felt that he neglected priorities because of the hold the game had on his addictive personality. This is a physician! who never vacuumed his floors in over a year because he just couldn't find the time. Waking up in the mornings when I did visit, meant turing on the computer before he even went to the bathroom. Crazy. I knew something was wrong but didn't know how wrong. All the while he was playing the game and conning me into thinking we had a future, it was hard to take him serious during phone conversations when all I could hear was the tap-tap-tap of the mouse and the tiny little voices of guild members coming from his headphone gear. Skyping became non-existent, texting ceased, and all the while I'd try to address the situation in that maybe he just wasn't happy with me - but he'd say I was "silly and overreacting, that I was the priority." I tried to understand him so much so that I went to a WoW art exhibit, and that is when I discovered that it wasn't just a game as they say, it was truly another world. I was shocked to see the flirting that occurs on these games. Now I know that every individual should have control of their own priorities and I'm not necessarily blaming WoW but I just think it's sad when people with addictive and selfish behaviors destroy loving relationships, hurt children, and leave people feeling betrayed and hurt. He conned me through the discourse of love all the while bringing the freaky fantasy world of maliciousness and harm to real life. Meridith my advice would be, make happiness for yourself and let him go, if in time he comes around... then it was meant to be. But you won't be able to stop him, control him, and those feelings will only hold you back and build resentment which of course aren't good in this short life we have. Let them sit on their lazy butts, living out some delusional, whacked, lifestyle of anti-socialism warlock wizardry. Weird freaks!

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This group is quite pathetic

Daniel — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:51:27 GMT

When I saw these forum boards, I was just so suprised to see how stupid the single individual can be. Not only that but many of the post here REALLY made me angry. You blame all of your problems on this one game, and frankly it pisses me off, just for the main reason that you are all taking the innocents out of a game I grew to love and respect. I notice that there are people here who have friends, family members, or loved ones who don't respect their own space and bitch just because they choose to SPEND THEIR OWN TIME on a beloved hobby they also grew to love. On the other hand I notice there are many of you who are also "addicted" to this game, and take all of your fustrations out on the game, while you should just blame yourself. It isn't the games fault that you "got addicted" it is YOUR FAULT. The game does not force you to become addicted.

Here is something about myself. I am a World of Warcraft player, and in the past years I grew to love not only the game, but the World (Azeroth and Outland), the people in it, and the whole environment and feeling. I do spend a lot of time on WoW, but IT IS MY OWN choice, and sometimes it does become a problem, but I take RESPONSIBILITY for it, I don't spew out shit and say "WoW ruined my life because it made me "addicted". On the other hand I always have friends that bitch to me because I spend "too much time on it". IT'S MY OWN FUCKING TIME! NOT THEIR TIME! I am not obligated to spend time for anyone else but me. But people still bitch at me, as if I owe them something, but honestly in RL the World really owes me something, an apology but that is a whole other story. This whole world (real world) is fucked up. The environment is being destroyed, there is world hunger and famine, there is still war. As for my personal life, my mother caught cancer, that fucking local goverment wants to build a road through the house I grew up in, and I it takes every bit of effort for me to even get out of bed. So the way how I see it is, fuck the real world. I feel happy that I am in World of Warcraft, and if it affects my RL in any negative way then it is my own choice and responsiblity.

What makes me angry is how you people all complain about the people in your life that are "addicted" to World of Warcraft, and instead of taking it out on the people you know, you all take it out on the game. It pisses me off that you say how the game is "evil" (oh please) and you all talk as if it corrupted you or your loved ones. If you all feel that WoW has affected you or your loved ones in a negative way IT ISN'T the games fault, it is the individuals fault. This all goes under the whole golden rule of CONSUMER RESPONSIBILITY. Just like how the tobbaco company isn't responsible for peoples health or McDonalds isn't responsible for peoples wieght (btw this is saying a lot because I'm a vegetarian), it isn't World of Warcraft's responsiblity for the amount of time people play on their, it is the individuals decession.

Many posts here made me angry (such as Chris's post), because you all bitch how your family, friends or spouses are on the game too much, but the truth you all need to realize is that it is THEIR OWN TIME and THEIR RIGHT. If you have a boyfriend or girlfriend who spends too much time on WoW and you think it affects your relationship, then it is YOUR OWN CHOICE to be with that person. If a boyfriend ditches you for WoW, and you feel abandoned then you shouldn't be with him in the first place. Same thing for the guys, if your girlfriend is on too much then it is your own choice to stay with that person. As for parents complaining that your kids spend too much time on the game, well then you need to control your kids because its not WoW's responsiblity to tell them to stop playing. If he or she is 18 or older, then tough shit, it is their own right to spend as much time as they want on WoW.

For the people who bitch how their mother or father spends too much time on WoW, you have no right to bitch about it at all because they supported you in the past so just be thankful for that. Mothers are more targeted because society puts a double standard on them. It is a mother's right to spend time the way how she chooses to spend time, and if she chooses to spend much of her time on WoW as she wants, then society has no right what so ever to bitch about it what so ever. It is the same thing with the father. Just because they are parents, it does not mean that they are not allowed to spend time the way they choose to spend time. Sometimes I just hate society because it always bitches over people choosing to live freely. What has ever happened to freedom and the pursuit of happiness.

So what do you people do, you all go here and bitch just because people you know choose to live freely. It doesn't matter if someone has children, a spouse, or a job, it is their own right to choose their time the way they want to spend their time. So what do you all say, you all say how WoW is evil? that is the biggest load of crap ever. Respect people's own private life. Don't bitch about the game, take a look in the mirror and realize that the only person to blame over this is you.

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I lost my mommy

Valerie — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:13:42 GMT

Ahh. My mom started playing a while ago. I was 13 or somthing. Anyway, growing up hasn't been easy for me. I'm very insecure because I'm different. It's just frustrating when I come home from school and my mom is downstairs playing that game. She doesn't even come up to say hello. Or sometimes I try to talk to her while she's playing and she says Val sorry I can't talk right know I'm in the middle of a combat...
I just get the feeling that the game is more important to her than me. To me, she's not my mom anymore. She's just someone living in my Dad's house. At times, I just want to take my tennis racket and smash it against that computer. It's hard for a teenage girl to have a game addict for a mom. I feel like I'm more mature than her. Sometimes when I'm lying in my bed at night, I think of the person she used to be before. Always there for me.

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You women are sad.

Justin — Thu, 07 May 2009 13:29:08 GMT

This goes out to the women, who are the majority of the complainers I see on here.

Instead of trying to show any sympathy, or gain any understanding of the situation involving the men in your lives and this computer game, you just complain that you're not getting what you want, ie, attention and "obligations" fulfilled.

If they quit WoW, and instead started going out with their friends, you'd probably complain that they care more about their friends than you.

Women loooove to complain, it's how they try to control other people.

Have you ever stopped to wonder why men play this game so much? Like honestly? After a man gets home for work or school, a world full of obligation, do you think... that he wants you to dump even more obligation onto him? No! He wants his fucken dinner ready so he can kick off his shoes and eat a warm, home cooked meal.

I bet half you women don't even know how to cook unless you have a microwave. I bet you're mad that he plays WoW because now you actually have to do some housework. Oh poor you.

What do you think the game gives him that work, school, taxes, the gender war, his "obligations" to you don't give him?

lol You girls are so stupid, and you are destined to lose boyfriend after boyfriend to other people, other women, and other hobbies.

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most wow payers r serious losers

Jake — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:02:31 GMT

ive been playing wow for 2 yrs now and have come across a large amount of idiots who think they r cool because they are good at a video game not only that but they r insultive name callers they will put you down in every way possible cuz they have no life 90% and i grew up with real friends and not video games like these uncool morons AND why would someone think its cool to smoke a joint and brag about it online if they where truely pot smokers .To me they r just a bunch of losers who think they have testosterone because they can kill stuuff ina game and Warnings to all they SUCK !!!!!!!!! AT MANLYHOOD!!!

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i want to take world of warcraft down

athena — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:25:28 GMT

i hate world of warcraft or my husband says WOW, i hate it so much that i think i can take it down but i would need help. let me tell you my history on this game. me and my husband meet in Korea. We were so in love. now we are in the states and we have decided to have a child, which is due in two weeks. Well the whole time i have been pregnant, he played wow. We live in a apartment, and it is on the second floor. We don't have a washer or dryer so i go to the little laundry thing the complex provided. Well he doesn't help me. I have carried loads of laundry, up and down those stairs, which they weigh more then 25 pounds and not complain, i just ask him to help,because it is his laundry to, but he help twice. I have clean the apartment all by myself, and i have beg for him to get intimate with me, and i also cry myself to sleep because i don't understand how he can do this to me. We have argue so many times, that it is not funny. I have unplug the game while he was playing i have emailed blizzard, and I also told him it was me or the game. And well lets just say the game is still around. I don't know what to do, he lies to me about not playing as much. like he said once i get to 60 ill stop playing, and then he said once i get to 70 ill stop playing, and now he has a new character I'm like when does it end. i tell him all the time i am going to leave you, but he doesn't care. I don't want to leave him because i don't love i want to leave him because he loves this game more then me. I don't want our son to have a computer bum dad. He tells me i am being controlling of him but i don't think he should be playing this game this much. But right now we are in newyork for his block leave and he said he wasn't going to play, well guess what he played the whole time we were here. we were here for like two weeks, and the only thing we have done is go to NYC for about three hours and the mall twice. but other then that he has played everyday so i think he has a problem. if you think you can help figure out a way take blizzard down email me at cardenasathena@yahoo.com i am open for anything please help me and my marriage.

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Go outside the graphics are amazing!

Saeed — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:45:23 GMT

I like a good game just as much as the next guy, but there is a time to play and a time to work and nothing anyone can do in WoW can improve there lives or the lives of the people they love.
I see WoW as an excuse for people to forgo there daily responsibilities and get engrossed in a fake fantasy world. For 29 dollars a month they can forget about what is going on in the REAL world. Maybe it's too much for these people to handle. This is truly a lazy mans game that will get you nowhere in life and its only making the people at Blizzard rich.
We have all heard of, or probably know someone who plays this game too much and has wasted years getting fat and not improving themselves or the world they live in. I just fail to see the benefit of this game and why people spend so much time and money playing it.
No software program can take the importance of face to face human interaction, and put it on a computer screen. I tend to think that the people who play this game too much, have a problem with themselves and want to hide behind the mask of a character of there choosing instead of improving themselves and there lives. People tend to take the easy way out of there misery.

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Wow addict speaks!

rich — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:38:46 GMT

Hi,

(quick note before we start, i will upload this to my blog, and keep editing it there, i can't seem to edit a post once its been made!)

Anyway Hi,

I am a wow addict, I am writing this as I read some of the posts here and sympathise with a lot of the women (and some men) whose lives this game has affected. I want to help, so hopefully this will help...

I started playing the game over 3 and a half years ago, two very good friends of mine had already bought and started playing the game, they played counterstrike with me and told me if would be really fun, add to that the reviews from various gaming magazines and the fact that warcraft 3 was an exceptional game, it was an easy buy....

It seemed like a natural step up from counterstrike, which although is another online multiplayer game it is no where near as involving, as indepth or as addictive as world of warcraft.

My friend and I bought the game, brought his computer over to mine and then hardly left the room for the next two or so weeks, we slept in the same room at different times, we ate junk food , we talked , we leveled our characters in an entirely new world and we had a lot of fun! I can still remember the feelings of seeing huge sweeping landscapes, fighting new monsters and most of all leveling. It was something we lived for, pushing ourselves to stay awake and level more, watch ourselves increase in strength and fighting other players in a virtual world.

You may be wondering how this is relevent, well, the feeling of doing all this , gaining levels, beating other players and exploring vasts new areas releases endorphins it gave me and my friends huge hits of pleasure! Its very very hard to explain, its like constantly being happy and safe!

There is a lot to do in an mmorpg such as wow, you can gain new weapons and armor to increase your characters fighting prowess, the damage he can do to other players, you can increase your profession skills, becoming a miner or skinner, you organise a group of friends to fight huge monsters in short , wow takes as much time as you can give, in short it is very addictive...

So, the problems started, leveling was an obsession, getting our characters better items (weapons and armor) was something we shrived to do, we spent more and more time per day (6-7 hours min.) getting them to maximum level. We stopped going to university lectures, we skipped our coursework and most importantly we failed to attend our first year exams we literally played wow right through them thinking we'll just retake the year! That is how much the game meant to us...

Fast forward three years... the game still has me in its grip, I am very very good at it, beating some of the best players in europe... and i still play a lot. There are times when i've managed to get away from it, taking 7-8 days off it due to lack of interest , but it keeps drawing me back, it's literally like a drug. I've taken up tae kwon do, joined the gym and go out to go clubbing with my friends but its not enough to keep me away from wow...

I am fully fully aware that i am addicted, i won't say it out loud except in jest, but i am seriously addicted to the game, if someone said to me tomorrow you cannot play wow again i don't know what i would do, i have dedicated so much time to it , stayed in when my friends go out to play it, and got so good at it, i think i would go through massive massive withdrawal symptoms.

However, there is hope, because i know that most of the people who play wow KNOW THIS, thats right, your husbands, bfs, fiancees or even friends THEY KNOW IT, they know that spending time playing wow instead of with you is wrong, that know you disapprove and they know that they want to change.... you must understand though it is not easy to quit wow, if you think i was being over dramatic about it being like a drug, guess again!

So now you know how i got into wow, what makes it so special , the consequences of playing it and the thoughts of the person you care about playing it, it's time for the help part!

Important points to keep in mind:

It is not easy, know this first off, drill it into your conscious, IT IS NOT EASY ! say it again IT IS NOT EASY TO QUIT WOW!
You are up against a euphoric feeling of safety and accomplishment, but it can be beaten, just don't expect it to happen in one day.

Secondly , you must know it is not your fault at all, if your partner is playing wow, rather than spending time with you, it is the games fault and the games fault alone, i know you may feel lonely and upset but don't blame him or yourself, blame the game.

Thirdly, wow is a form of escapism, people use it to break free from commitment or real life struggles, everything is forgotten when playing wow, this is why when people are disturbed when playing wow it angers them or causes them to be irritable, because life comes crashing back as do the troubles, anxieties and fears.

Quitting

I suffer from an anxiety and depression disorder which requires me to take a drug that inhibits my serotonin uptake, it short an anti depressant, I also see a councillor, throughout our talks we discussed a lot of ways in which to improve my mind and thoughts, some of which I believe could be helpful here.

Starting a new hobby/activity/sport, I chose the gym and tae kwon do, and it worked perfectly, I was out of the house on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday as well as joining my friends for nights out (when I could walk), this left little time for wow and I even though I found myself coming in at 7-8pm I felt no rush to jump onto my computer, I stopped raiding and only did arena a few times a week, it was perfect. My one fatal error was stopping all of this when my university exams hit, so that I struggled to take these activities up again and fell into wow remission!

Keeping track of time, When playing wow, any sense of time is lost, you can be so immersed in the game that hours literally whizz by. Keeping an alarm clock next to the computer and setting it to go off every hour will keep focus away from sitting in game doing nothing and will help to give some perspective to it. I get up and stretch my legs for 5-10, take stock of anything I need to do and do it.
Setting definitive times for playing wow, although you may frown on this, If you want your friend to quit, this is a sacrifice that must be made. Be realistic as well, set 1-2 hour periods that you leave your ‘friend’ alone to play wow, but these constraints work both ways at the time set get him/her off the computer for some quality time with you! And be patient, a little leeway to finish a boss/quest/game will give you brownie points.

I want to get this out to the forums as quickly as possible; I genuinely want to help people. It seems so depressing seeing people’s life’s being torn apart by this stupid game and I do sympathise, I , from personal experience know that this game is incredibly addictive and is a huge problem for some people!

Any questions at all, how to quit, what’s the best way to make a change, how people feel when they play wow, simply ask me! I will try my absolute hardest to reply to everything!

As this is only a draft I will post it and keep editing. But at least it’s out there I hope it helps

Yours sincerely

Wow addict

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AHH!!!! HE QUIT WOW!!!

PJ — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:44:09 GMT

So... a couple months ago, I was on here feeling pretty cruddy because my boyfriend wouldn't give me the time of day. (If you're interested in the full details, I posted "God damn, is it really that serious." But the other day, he walks up to me and tells me he sold his character and is quitting for good.

Now... I can't even describe the feeling, other than a great sense of suspicious shock coming over me. But, I didn't question it, because he came to this all on his own. I wasn't trying to get him to quit, just control how much he played. I guess for him it had to be all or nothing. It was hard for him, and it still is since this is all fresh. He doesn't know how to handle all his free time so he's picked up a few other games, but I'm sure things are going to get better. We're even replaying Metal Gear Solid together.

A word of advice for the gf/bfs of former wow players:
Now, I did make a big mistake a few days after he quit it. He was playing something all day called "Dota," which is another online game. I asked him "is that your new Wow?" He was so mad he took the car and left. After all the crying and yelling settled later, I realized I had been discouraging him, and it was a big sacrifice he did for me. Just realize that these things take time, and some people are able to quit right away, and others need more help and time.

In all, if someone cares for you, they will put in the effort and time for you. Even if your mate doesn't quit Wow all together, you can still have a nice relationship if they get their priorities in order. Don't tie yourself down to someone who isn't progressing though, use your good years and energy for someone who really wants to make you happy. I hope all of you can find happiness. =)

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WoW is ruining my marriage & my life.... Why I hate it

Lex — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:29:06 GMT

Hi Everyone.....

This is my first post as I just joined tonight (I am Australian). I decided I'd had enough of the game & googled "i hate warcraft" to see what it came up with & I found this site & joined right away!!

I totally emphasize with all of you. My life is a mess because my husband of one year is addicted to WoW. When we first got together everything was wonderful but when I moved in with him I discovered that he played WoW almost every night, something he had neglected to tell me. Over the last 18 months as time has gone on he has become truly addicted to the game. What makes things worse for me is that I'm 8 months pregnant & I am having to spend the days at home alone as I haven't been well & then when he gets home at night he is always on his game & all weekend, so I am getting basically no social interaction at all at the moment & I have never felt so lonely or unhappy in my life... isn't pregnancy meant to be exciting & wonderful??? I'm not sure he even wants this baby now as it's going to interfere with his gaming. You know a couple of weeks ago I collapsed on the floor whilst he was playing, he jumped up to help me, got me to my feet, dragged me to the couch & told me to stay there & not move until he could get off the game!!!! Can you believe that??

I collapsed again last week & had to go to hospital for the night. He did come with me but he had to make sure he let all the people in his Guild know he wouldn't be there & then chatted to some on the phone in my hospital room. You would think it's a job or something. The thing I really hate about the game is that you can't just get on there & do your own thing, play for an hour or so, all these raids he does take hours & hours & they plan out their raids weeks in advance & so he feels "committed" to the Guild. Whatever.... Sure as hell isn't committed to me. You know, I bet he'll be talking to people on the phone whilst I'm giving birth & resenting having to be there with me rather than playing Wow.

I did some calculations the other day. I worked out that of the 168 hours in a week he spends about 50 hours a week at work - he is a general manager & does work very hard, there is no denying that. He would spend about 42 hours sleeping, atleast 5 hours driving to & from work, & get this 50 hours of Wow... that leaves 5-8 hours for everything else, cleaning, shopping, watching his tv shows - battlestar galactica & spending time with me!!!! Maybe I get about 2 hours a week & even then I feel that it's because he feels he has to, not because he wants to. He wonders why I feel unloved. I totally understand that he has a stressful job & that he needs time to himself & time to destress, but I think there's a limit. He may as well have said his vows to his computer not to me, I think he'd be far happier if he was married to it than to me.

I have tried everything I can think of to try to get around this problem. I have even created my own character & tried to enjoy the game myself so we can play together, but running round killing stuff is just not my thing. I have spoken to him about & each time he says he'll cut back, he does for maybe a week, then it is back into his old ways. He has made alot of friends in his Guild & I think he's far more interested in chatting to them than he is in talking to me. He has become so withdrawn too. He barely speaks to me anymore, & doesn't share anything about his life with me anymore. & he always says to me "wouldn't you rather I be home playing games, than up the pub getting pissed everynight, atleast you know where I am"..... he is so insensitive. Now most times I bring it up he just gets annoyed with me & I don't wanna make him angry coz I'm scared he'll leave or something.

It makes things hard now that we are married otherwise, despite the fact that for some strange reason I love him so much, I think I would have left by now. But the baby just complicates things even more. I don't want my little boy growing up without a Mum & a Dad who love each other & are together. & if I was to leave I have nowhere to go anyway & as it is, he provides all the finances.

Sorry for rambling on, but I am so depressed & upset, crying every night, feeling very unwell due to this pregnancy & am so lonely coz of this awful game. I don't know what I can do & am so confused about things. I feel I'm trapped in this cycle & that I should just get used to it coz it seems like it will never end.

Terrible thing is - I can't live without him, but I find it very hard living with him.

Thanks guys.....

Alexis

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I don't even know my brothers anymore...

Amy — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:19:01 GMT

My family has always been pretty close, my brothers have all been into video games for as long as I can remember but nothing as bad as this. My Older brother jimmy played every single day until he left for his mission. then he left his account to my other older brother Ricky. Ricky used to do Cross Country, he used to hang out with his friends, he used to actually do stuff with my family and talk to us like families are supposed to do, that has all gone. All he does is play WOW, he just graduated and he says he is "looking for a job" if he is not at church, or you bribe him with something worth his precious attention he will never even look away from the screen. I miss hanging out with my brothers. It was my brother in law James that got my brothers into it. We used to hang out together, play games, sports, family activities. but now I am lucking if I see James once every two or three months. He started a buisness with my sister, selling her art work. It was not my sister's idea, it was all james's Idea. He told us that he knew with enough time and hard work, that she would get "noticed" and that we would start making money, he was really cool about it and he was cool about spending money on what needed to be bought. When he started WOW he told us that he "didn't have enough time" BULL SHIT!!! my sister tells me he spends 40-60 hours on that game a week! HE told us to our faces that he doesn't have enough time, and we both knew it was a big freaking LIE!!! I am posting all this to try and say that... I MISS MY BROTHERS!!! I wish something would happen to bring them to reality. My brothers say that they aren't addicted, well I say to them that, it doesn't need to be physically addicting be addicted, it can be mentally and emotionaly too. WOW is the second worse thing on the planet... second only to heroine.

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Wow is good

skv — Fri, 22 May 2009 22:51:54 GMT

I see too many mean posts which is not cool. I Had to I feel I played this game like 4 years now and have currently like 8.1k achv points and 2 accounts active which basicly says that I've been playing alot! Before wow I didn't had any friends or gf, was always lonely. I don't think reason was because of my looks or socializing. I always felt that people hated me for some reason hehe I dunno I never got inside group of friends who were all closely linked and I don't smoke or drink and all that stuff.

So wow was place where I could socialize with new people and have fun inside game. I don't think i'm one of those addicted types because I spend most of my time at work+I like to sk8 at summers. But when I have free weekends I could play wow for full 4 weeks 24/7. I really love this game and online gaming general. You don't have to worry irl things inside this game and really have genually fun.

Just remember to concentrate your job especially if it's something that needs build experience. According statics 90% of people are not happy with their current job, so yeah it needs discipline to go there do that same shit like always. But money and savings helps you in future with living, gaming etc.

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Lookin for a thief

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:44:24 GMT

Is there anybody out there that would be willing to rob my wifes account blind. She has several character a couple of them are 70's. Now you must be willing to destroy the account as well. The more harm the better, at least for me.

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i hate this game.

Samantha — Fri, 22 May 2009 01:04:07 GMT

i really only joined Tribe so i could let out my dislikeness towards this game. my boyfriend plays and it SUCKS. like in the beginning of our relationship he played constantly. he would tell me he didnt want to hangout cause he was gonna play wow. and that really pissed me off. then on top of that he told me we spent too much time together and he needed "space." i hated him at that point, enyet i still went out with him. then out of the blue he just stopped playing until recently. he stopped for 4 months and let me just say our relationship was so goood. then his dumb wow friends got him back into it. so i told him i didnt want him playing while i was over. and he's good with that. but i just hate how much he plays, cause that all he does when im not there. he plays from like 6pm-12am. and i tell him you play atleast 6hrs a day and he gets mad me. im so sick of it. im embarrassed that im going out with someone that plays. cause all he does when he plays is eat and masterbate. its so fucking digusting. god i hate this game so much. guys that are reading this are probably like ohh this isnt true blah blah blahh. but like it isss. like think about it, youre playing this fictional character and you just get sucked in and forget everything else. i hate it. just the fact that 11 million people are on their asses watching a computer screen for soo many hours. like how can they do that it makes me sick. i just hate that game. it wastes peoples lives to do stuff and experience life. like most people playing wow are probably going to waste like more then 1/2 their life playing a stupid game that'll get you no where. like OMG AWESOME YOURE A FUCKING LEVEL 80. no one gives a fuck. no one's going to give a you a prize. no one is going to remember that, know that, or care that you did that when you die, so just stop. ugh i hate it. and sorry if i offended anyone. i didnt mean to. and if you have a negative thing to say, dont say it at all please. this is just my opinion and you can take it however you wantt. i dont really care. but i just want some support cause my boyfriend is just giving me shit about it and this games made us get into fights so muchh and has made me sadd. i just want some support so i dont sound crazy for hating a game so much. thanks so much to whom ever read this. -sam

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Yep I hate this game with a passion!!!!

Allison — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:18:20 GMT

So my man started playing this game for the past four years. His best friend got him into it and I was so angry. I didnt know that this was going to be a game that he was going to play for hours and hours. Its so gay. There is so much drama on wow, IT might as well be myspace. It is crazy the shit people pull on that game. People are obessed with that game, and my man doesn't even sleep in bed with me anymore. Its so funny though how everyones girlfriend hates this game!!!

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Husband addicted to WOW

spring — Tue, 26 May 2009 02:33:56 GMT

My husband plays wow 8 hours or more a day. I take care of our 8 month old son and go to school online full time. I'm also 5 months pregnant. He has a fit if I tell him to get off. His brother, dad, and friends are in his guild which makes it even worse. He tries to tell me I should be glad he's not out runnin around. I feel like a single mom. He doesn't even have a job. I'm not sure what to do anymore.

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WOW is gaining ground

Joseph — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:32:58 GMT

I am currently deployed to Iraq. My wife plays WOW much to my disliking. Every time I tell her I am going to leave, she promises to cut back playing time. Her father is grossly overweight because all he does is play WOW. Recently, my two sons were spending time with my wife's parents for summer vacation. My father-in-law sent my 8 year old home with his old laptop so he could play with him. My wife emailed me this information and I bombarded her with a lot of bottled up frustration over my past year at home with her playing too much. I told her to take a serious look at her life and even that she was overweight because all she did was play that game. My wife doesn't cook or clean much. Over the past year home she made 5 meals at most. It seems like all I can resort to is telling her that I will leave her if she doesn't quite and I keep warning her. Is there anything else I should do? Doesn't it seem like an 8 year old playing on line games is a bit much? I feel like he should be riding his bike or playing baseball.

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A message to you addicts

John — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 05:39:26 GMT

I'll tell you kids, I used to be addicted to this game hardcore. I would play sometimes from sunrise to sunset. I was a top pvper on my server, and in one of the best pve guilds there was. Everyone fucking knew who I was, if you didn't know who I was, you weren't a quality player. This is what sucks you so far into this game, in my opinion anyway, its the fame... the fake fame... the fake sense of accomplishment etc. You become worried that if you don't keep playing you'll fall behind and won't be as uber and loved by the gaming community as you always were. Well I got news for you kids! It doesn't fucking matter, get a fucking job, and get over your addiction. The game isn't even fucking fun, its progressive, it gives you a huge sense of accomplishment... but the truth is.. there really is no accomplishment, you just feel like there is. Heres something to try, quit you pve guild, just quit it, end it, farm enough so that youll be able to gem your pvp gear, and only pvp. Play for 4-5 hours a week in arena AND THATS ALL. I went from playing maybe 40 hours a week to like 6, and you know what, when I log on I still have the same old respect I always did. Honestly guys, don't be a fucking loser like I was.. I wasted a year of my high school life.. the best time of my life, and broke enough connections to make the following year shittier than it should be after quiting.

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Lost my best friend

Ben — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:19:47 GMT

Just another story of the power of wow. Ive been stuck in second place to this stupid game for a few years now. He says its relaxing and an escape from reality. I say its an addiction. Warcraft always comes first and is more important than everything else in his life. It is so annoying because if I want to do something with him, it has to be a time when he doesnt want to play wow. Which he currently plays 3-5 hours a day during the week (after work) and then anywhere from 3-12 hours per day on saturday and sunday. He keeps sucking other friends of ours into it too. I hate this game and wish i could destroy all the servers for it. He has quit several times but it never lasts. He has the same excuses as everyone else on here that he is playing less now.... right. What a douchebag. Warcraft is the only place left that it is legal for a grown man to play with 12 year old boys all day.

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Pause yourself, and look what you are talking about.

Nick — Mon, 05 May 2008 00:13:10 GMT

I don't even know what to say....I'm speechless....I have been a wow player for about 3 years or so, I quit every now and then. And my account is frozen at the moment because I am taking something called a ----->BREAK<------ Number 1. Pause, and look what your complaining about. ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME. HOW DOES A VIDEO GAME RUIN YOUR LIFE. Half of your blogs are about your spouses/partners/family members being addicted. Its not the games fault. Its their fault. Its your fault. Its their fault for letting the game take over their pityful lives, and your fault for even letting it escalate to that level. A game doesn't take over a life. It hasn't taken over MY life. I still have time to be with my girlfriend, to be BALANCING TWO JOBS, to go to college, and balance everything that comes with adulthood. Your partner/spouse/family member is irresponsible obviously, and is SO weak that they actully let a VIDEO GAME take over their lives. Pause. If you have some sense left, you should be able to see that it is nothing more than a meer video game. Until then, I don't know what to say.

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Thank goodness for this forum

mpen032 — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:22:54 GMT

I have a boyfriend who is totally addicted to wow...no surprise there i guess but im quite relieved that i have found a place for me to vent out all my frustrations that comes from having a patner that would rather play wow than be in a real relationship..I have read most of the post on this tribe and i understand the pros and cons of wow in a person's life..but up to what point should i put up with it?
I understand the need of my patner to have the escape/relaxation he needs in which he gets from this game, and i am trying to understand his way of thinking about playing the game, but i just dont get it?!?! I know he goes online to hang out with his friends, but i dont get why he plays it so much and why he and his friends cant just hang out in real life..him and his friends reminds me of that south park episode about wow...
I feel lucky im not married to him, but i am also sad that it might not happen to us eventhough iam in love with him...I dont know...its really hard to grasp how much the game has affected our relationship..my patner is the only one in his group of friends who's in a relationship so there's really no one else to relate to, that's why im quite relieve to have found this site..

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Life Destroyed In One Opening of the Box...

None — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:45:28 GMT

Hello, my name is Jon. Here's the story of my WoW experience, and how it destroyed most of my life.

Before WoW I had a good job and family. Always went to work--and happy to go to work at as well. Loved my job, my friends and family. But, after building a new PC I wanted to play a game that I'll relax to after coming from a hard day of work. That game was: World of Warcraft. I started off using the free-trial leveling my character to 13 than deactivating my account. After a month, I reactivated my account and went back into play.

Two months turned into four, than to five and so and so on. My job attendance suffered. Socializing with my family was the inevitable. Real life was but a fading memory as my soul sucked into the large amounts of hours I put into this game. Didn't take a bath. Didn't brush my teeth. Didn't care about my weight as well--which I've gained alot of pounds during playing the game.

Although there were consequences. Lost my job. Lost my sense of direction in life. My addiction was fueled by this stupid game. Man, If I had a chance to turn my life around, I would in a heart-beat. But I know you can't, you just have to live with the mistakes you made. Deleted my character and all his items than gave the game to my neighbor ( should've threw the God-forsaken thing in the trash so no other human could harness it again ).

Unemployed now living at my mother's house until I can find a another job for the time being. Slowly getting my self-esteem and confidence back to where I once was. Sometimes I go and post on www.wowdetox.com and read some of the stories of others who've gone through the same things through this game. Hope to do much better now since I've been clean from WoW for almost 2 years. Think about going back sometimes, but with this support group I won't think about stepping into that virtual doll-house again.

Thanks for reading,

Jonathan.

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I don't know what to do or believe anymore.......

Lesley — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:39:49 GMT

My husband has been playing WOW for about a year now. He is always playing. He has headphones and a microphone and everything. He also has my 11.5 year old daughter playing too. We have had so many fights about it and his playing and he tells me he will cut back, he does for a while and then he is right back at it all the time. We have been married for 14 years, have known each other for 18 and used to be very close. I feel like I am losing my husband because it seems as if he would rather play that stupid game than spend any time with me. I am a stay-at-home mom so I don't get any contact with another person until he comes home or my daughter comes home from school. The big problem is that he has, in the past, met a woman on the internet and one day told me that he didn't think he loved me anymore and then actually drove to Florida to meet her. He came back as soon as he got there-maybe it was guilt. We saw a marriage counselor for a long time and things got worked out. That was 9 years ago. But last year he and my best friend kissed. My best friend fessed up, I was a mess. He fessed up too after a few weeks and I lost it. I overdosed on Klonopin and tried to kill myself. He called an ambulance and I was taken to the hospital. Once again we saw the marriage counselor and I thought things were OK. Now this....and I have a hard time trusting him because I know he is playing with other women and I often wonder if he is talking to another woman or whatever. I am so upset and so scared and I don't know what to do or believe. When I question him about talking to women he says he just plays the game and that is it. Nothing more. And then he gets angry with me for thinking that and then we start fighting. I am tired of all of this.........I don't know if I should file for divorce or not. I feel like it a lot of the time. But I love my husband and I don't want to be the one to tear my family apart. I have no job and I really don't know how I would support myself or where I would go. I am so upset and I just don't want to deal with this anymore.......it is tearing my world and heart apart.

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A bit of a different story

Carter — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:28:47 GMT

So this is my first time posting here as I just found the site today. Like alot of you, WoW is causing some issues between my girlfriend and I. And like some of you, I also used to play the game. The wierd thing is I actually met my girlfriend in the game. It wasn't one of those "we live across the country, we've never met but we're dating" things you see so often. We just found out we lived close to each other (about 10 minutes on foot...), decided to meet and, quite surprisingly for both of us, we fell in love.

The thing is, the only real reason I ever played WoW was for a lack of anything better to do. Some people watch tv, read books, whatever. I played wow. I never once blew off anyone to stay home for the game. I did actually end up mildly addicted to the game where I was looking forward to days when I could just stay home and play it, but after about 3 days of not going out I'd go nuts and have to do something. I always thought that people that played were mostly like me, and couldn't figure out groups like this one because I didn't really believe anyone would ever actually PREFER to stay home and play a game over seeing their friends/spouses.

Shortly after I started dating this girlfriend, I began to really lose interest in WoW. I started to realise that every time I got on the game, I was either bored or mad. I couldn't really see the point in paying money for something to piss me off or bore me... So I slowly quit playing, dropped down from playing every day, to playing a couple times a week, to once a week, to once a month...now I don't have an account anymore. I realised I would just much rather spend time with my girlfriend than sit on a computer. This is where the troubles started happening.

I had assumed (stupid thing to do I know) that my girlfriend felt the same way I did about the game: it was basically a boredom killer. But after I slowed down/quit playing we started having issues. The first thing that happened was my parents came up to meet her. We had planned on doing supper for a couple nights on the weekend because she worked during the day. She came over the first night, but the second she decided to stay home to raid... This really bugged me, but when I asked her about it she told me it was more that she was nervous about coming over. I just believed that because again, I figured nobody would rather stay home and play a game than do something with real people. But as time went on, this kind of stuff started happening alot more. We'd be planning on going out with people and we'd end up an hour or more late because she had to finish a run or whatever she was doing and didn't start getting ready to leave in time. Or we'd be planning on getting together after she had finished a run or raid and she'd end up "forgetting" and continuing on the game. These kinds of things got more and more common and we started fighting about the game alot. It came to the point where she actually quit playing for a while because of all the fights.

Now she wants to start playing again and I'm thinking "here we go again". She tells me she doesn't miss the game, the only reason she wants to play it is because she doesn't have any other way of seeing her friends that have been moved because of the military and that she's not going to get hooked into it again. The thing is, I've heard this so many times before. I don't want her to not play WoW at all BECAUSE she can't stay in contact with alot of people that she went to high school with any other way. But I also don't want to feel like I'm below a video game on her list of priorities. I really don't know what to do anymore.

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I was an addict, and now i havent played for 4 months

Roshan — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:14:00 GMT

Hey

I was gifted WoW on December 2004 before i went abroad to do my College. The first year of college was great, Parties, getting drunk n baked all day and getting all my Studies done. Once the 2nd year started was also when i got my level 60 char into a raiding guild, since then everything went sliding down. I stopped going for my regular classes, i started getting backlogs, my friends started to worry and come over to my house and try and get me out of the game, a few made jokes about it too, but i was to engrossed in the game to even bother. 1 more year went by and i was still playing.

There is a point where everyone gets a conscious smack on the head saying "What the Fuck are you doing with your life". That is when i decided Im done with this shit (WoW). Now the harder part was, How am i going to do that? My work got cut out for me, My account got hacked and i wasnt able to play for a month. Once i got it fixed i was too far behind in the game, i started just logging on to find i had nothing to do, i just started ruining my account eventually, i gave my account info to guildies, my RL friends to try out the game if they like, i Sold one of my accounts to my RL friend too. Then came the Big day when my account registration fees had to be paid. I just logged on and removed my credit card info. Since then i havent logged on the game and i dont think i ever will.

I still do think about the game, i have friends in game but im never going to meet them, im not one of them. I was never a person to sit in front of a computer for more than the 2-3 hours unless i am watching a movie or talking on msn. I have RL friends with relatives who have ruined their lives playing wow too. I feel them, but i pity them too. Im over the game and i hope people REALISE that its just a fucking game, Its not going to take you anywhere financially and socially. It has also been a year since i have smoked a Cigarette.

This is my Story, hope it helps someone in some way or the other. I am not much of a writer so please excuse the random sentences.

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REAL LIFE

riccardo — Fri, 30 May 2008 08:37:07 GMT

I'm an italian guy so escuse me for my english...
It's 2 years that i play to wow and for 1 of this time i was an addict: i played 14 hours in a day and i stopped to go out with my friends.
When i understode what i was doing i stopped to play for 2 months and i obtain a new real life.
Now i have a girlfriend, i play in a professionistic baseball team and i have a good work.
My tips for all is to stop play for a short time and live all experience that are around you...
I play every day, but in lunch break from 1.30 to 3.30.

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tired and empty

FamilyTime — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:34:56 GMT

I have been battling gaming for years. But since WOW came along it never ends. This game never ends! My husband plays this at work, inbetween work and at home whenever he can, he picks it up. He has fought me over the issue, he has become angry and even reacted with such fierce anger that I was frightened. Over the years I have tried crying, demanding, being more alluring, being more fun, ignoring the problem and joining in. It does not matter what I do, because I am not the one with the problem. My husband has a problem. At times he has admitted this. He has tried to regulate this at time too. He has committed, in writing , to only certain days or certain times....but they never stick. He falls back into the temptation. I have yet to find a solution to the problem. Each of these people that are struggling are struggling with an addiction and a weakness. It is not the fault of the other people in their lives. It is not that we as "widows" ,(speaking for myself),do not want them to enjoy thier lives. It is that we want them to be healthy, and be in the healthy real time relationships with the people that they started a life with. We all deal with the pain of rejection in different ways, sometimes it is anger, sometimes it is despair, sometimes it is disconnection. I, like most of the rest of the people here, wouldn't care if the people we loved enjoyed themselves on the computer, every once in a while. It is the passion and the drive that they put into the guild and the game that we want directed back at the healthy real life sources. That is what I, personally, envy and desire. I want my husband to fight for me the way he fights for time with that game. Part of me wishes that before kids were involved, I had taken a stronger precedent....but hind sight is 20/20. I love my husband desperately, and my kids love him desperately. I think that it is just helpful sometimes to hear someone else say..."I get it." "I hear you", since we live with people that look at us like crazy people regarding this topic. And that is what this is about, for me. Thanks for listening and being there.

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Online addiction

Nicole — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:32:02 GMT

Hello everyone, I just joined this post to say how I feel about World of Warcraft. I completely feel for alot of you I too feel like my boyfriends addiction to the game is ruining our relationship. We have been dating for 3 years known eachother for 8 and have a 11 month old together. He played the game 24/7 when he was single and tappered off a bit when we were datng but we still fought about the amount of time he put into the game. He finally quit cold turkey and stayed that way for 7 months I was so proud of him. I felt like we were actually a couple again. However he has begun playing again and he will just shove our daughter in her playpen when I am at school or work and play wow. We have been fighting over this topic for so long I feel numb like no matter what I say he wont leave wow. He started to play again because a co worker at his new job plays and now he is back to being addicted again. I understood that he wanted to fit in and everything. Im just so upset I don't want my daughter to get hurt the way I have from this game. My friends have told me to leave him before because of the lack of effort he puts into our relationship and that he puts more into Wow. I just dont know what to do?

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Just the beginning

Jennifer — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:26:43 GMT

My fiance is just beginning, and slowly I notice things happening around the house. He never helps me tidy and never spends time with me. I want him to be more active in our relationship. This goes to show how this game is causing laziness in themselves and their relationships.

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I agree with Hue on how to quit happily

justin — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:01:59 GMT

I was in a pve guild, and a Tank Warrior. I spent about 20 to 50 hours a week depending on how much work i could skip. I guess for one wow is better than reality. But I wanted to beat the damn game or at least get to Hyjal. But I came to the point where getting better gear seemed like it was going to take a month tho get half of the gear i needed to go on to the next dungeon. So what I did.

#1. I quit my guild.
#2. Realized Pve is a waste of time
#3. Started playing pvp, it takes soooo much less time.

pvp is fun, I play just a COUPLE, (about 4)hours per week. I am having trouble justifying $14 a month for as little as I play now, lol. And it is just enough of the former wow experience to keep me satisfied, like nicotene gum or something. You still get cool gear and respect, but it is easier to get and more linear in the path to get it. No more writing huge pages of notes on a pad or keeping a manilla folder for my toon's quest objectives.

Life is much much much better without pve. You have to realize that the designers are genius and deserve to be respected for their ability to create something so addictive out of computer code! You also have to realize that pve is a never ending bullshit battle that you can't win. Kyle from southpark says "I just gotta catch the dragon, i'm about to get it" on Heroin Hero.

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More woes of WoW =/ ....And how does it work?

kel — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:10:26 GMT

By how does it work, I mean does it get updated with new levels from time to time?

Because(and here's where my woes come in) I have a close friend of the oposite sex, and you all know where this is heading, now. :P
We live in different cities, but we've met in person before. I consider him a real-life friend, and we have plans to visit next spring. Well, we used to talk almost every day, and a few times a week we'd be talking for hours. Yes, we're closer than "just friends". However, all of a sudden about six weeks ago, the conversations became less frequent and less intense. I was a little upset by this, and felt like something changed, or like I did something to piss him off or maybe that he just wasn't interested anymore. Then I found out he plays WoW. I didn't know the scope of this WoW business until I asked a few friends if they knew what it was. One friend told me of a local computer shop going out of business due to excessive Warcrafting. This news was craptastic.

My friend and I have a little fun with our "special friendship" by sending each other fun photos of ourselves. He was supposed to send his two weeks ago, but still nothing. He hasn't said a peep to me in a week, and to be honest I'm feeling like a rejected piece of crap. I will say that the man works hard, he's gone close to 12 hours a day, and there are nights when he goes home and does hours more work. This was one of those weeks, but before he started again with the WoW he'd usually message me to say hi, or even if he didn't it would never be an entire week with no contact. I actually asked him last time we talked if he was still interested in our "arrangement", and his response was "oh but of course", and maybe two weeks ago I suggested we make the photo exchange a monthly thing, and he loved the idea. So I know he's still interested, but I just feel so shitty and....neglected, I suppose.

He's been playing for awhile, I think, but since we were talking every day i know he wasn't playing. This is why I wonder if it gets updated, meaning when you get to where ever it stops, do you have to wait for new levels to be added?

Since reading a few things posted to this tribe, I feel a little better, in an odd way. But I also feel like, if I don't message him, how long is it gonna be before we talk again? And how long until we have a good meaningful conversation, because that's been even longer, probably three weeks. :P When I sent my last batch of photos, he liked them well enough, but he sure didn't go on about them like he did before he started playing WoW every day. We talked for maybe an hour, and then he was gone.

Any advice? Should I initiate a conversation soon? I don't mind if he plays videogames, I really don't, and I don't want to disturb him when he's doing his own thing, but when it's to this extent it makes me feel like crap. At least, since finding this tribe, I don't feel like it's me he isn't interested in. I know it's just too much WoW. This is reassuring, but I still miss him and worry that it'll all be over.

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to all those who've lost someone to WoW.

johnny — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:16:05 GMT

dont worry, Im sure they'll be autobanned for no reason whatsoever like myself. Bliz is a lumbering giant corporation that doesnt care at all for anything but their money. they COULD limit player time on their own, by a weekly or monthly basis. they KNOW they have subscribers with problems. They create gameplay that requires grinding the same amount of time as people who spend 14 hours a day playing, because its a constant red queen effect in the game. Not only this, they intentionally create content that takes up to 5 hours to complete. Bliz doesnt give a shit about players with all this kind of irresponsible behavior, evidenced by silent unreasonable bans right after you sign up for another month of game time (and not before for some reason), and the way they try to make a game where players have to spend their lives completely on it.

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My family has been destroyed

Raelyn — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:41:27 GMT

My husband started playing WOW this spring. The neighbors brought the game home. I have been in nursing school this year, I graduated in August alone. I'm so distraught & my family is such a wreck I have to turn down my first job to help my children. My husband has spent the past four months on WOW. I am not allowed to say a word; how dare I deprive him of something that brings him so much pleasure. My neighbors family is torn apart, my neighbor and best friend is having online emotional affairs & wants to divorce her husband. To her this is the only solution, counseling has never been an option. Her daughter (28, married with child) plays almost daily with my husband. Her husband is too busy working to support her. My husband would rather play with her than me, he missed my pinning ceremony. He filed for divorce the night before & stayed home to play with her. My daughter had a migraine today and could not go to school. She told me today, her dad yells at her & she is not allowed to look at the computer screen when he is playing with one best friends daugter. Tonight he played with her again, when I walked in the room he immediately changed the screen so I could not see his chat. This divorce will go through, I will eventually become a nurse, but not as soon as planned. My neighbors daughter is a C*** , her marriage will come to an end soon. I did not work this hard to have my life come to this.

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WoW - a love story

golephish — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:58:45 GMT

i phucking hate this game. i have never played it but my friend mike does all the time. he met his girlfriend who is married and a marine and spends all is time in exacunis or some §erver --

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wowstolemygirlfriend.com

superpj — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:08:12 GMT

I made the domain years ago when my girlfriend first started playing wow as a joke. Just after christmas it came true.

it's a forum system that I haven't dumped that much time into but if any one wants to use it you're welcome to and I don't really care what anyone says on it so feel free to let loose.

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DnD powns WoW any day!

Levi — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:25:16 GMT

WoW is for people with no imagination, DnD is where it's at! WoW is just a scam to feed off stupid morons and ruin their lives. WoW make your brain die, while DnD revitalizes your brain. It keeps you on you toes you not limited to what the admin says, as long as your DM is cool your free to do what you want when you want. Help me spread the word, Out with the World in with the Dragon! Out with the World in with the Dragon! Out with the World in with the Dragon!

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Online Orphan

Arielle — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:04:24 GMT

Alright, I have a nice story for you all. While I was growing up I had a dad, still do, who was part of the Airforce which his is not now. While I was growing up my dad ran across one of the first online games that would soon entrance and take over a lot of people's lifes. This game is called Utlima Online. This game is over 10 years old and at the time when my dad started I was around 10 or 11, I don't remember but I do remember that it was 6 months before the game directors decided to put more things into the game. You see, the game was in beta form for 2 and a half years so essentially this game had been out since I was 8 or 9. Well my dad played this game to his heart's content and the dad I once knew and the dad the spent time with me no longer did that, he wouldn't even turn an eye to playing a game with the family on the computer. My mom didn't seem to care and when we moved back to our hometown finally due to bankruptcy because he quit the airforce saying he wanted to stay with his family... He got my mom and my aunt into playing it.

This became the day where I had to grow up fast. I had a little brother and I had two cousins, one older then me, one younger them me. My aunt's husband was the only one that didn't play that damn online game but he slept all the time. It came to the point where the only time I saw my mom outside of the computer room or my dad was either them heading to work or one of them cooking dinner. My brother, my cousins, and I never had a chance to touch the computer until they were all asleep.

My cousin and I had snuck downstairs to get on my dad's and my aunt's or mom's computers to play this online game. At first we were entranced by the game. When my family moved out to move into a rentable house which we lived in for 2 years or so, or until I was 14. If that wasn't the half of it I had the pressure of being Mommy to my brother, starting to do more chores around the house which my parents used to do, and I was forming depression. I started hating myself, not understanding why my parents were sucked into this online game because I stopped liking the game after a while, I started seeing a counselor because of my depression. There was no ending to this game, no ending to us being online game orphans.

The 'family' moved into a new house when I was 14 and then the online games continued. My mother finally came back to us but the damage had already been done. I hated myself, my brother was starting to hate himself, I was 'mommy' and in control and when she tried to take my control away from me it was hard for me to let go, in fact I still want a control I don't have because I was used to being mommy and it's a shock to not be mommy.

Finally, when I was 15 a game called Horizons came out, Mom got back into gaming with my dad, my dad changed to Horizons and it was back to being the online game orphans, me resuming Mommy, my brother giving me no respect because my mom had tried to regain her position but went back to the online gaming.

This game eventually stopped running and my dad switched back to Ultima Online along with my mom. They played Ultima Online until World of Warcraft came out.

I will admit, the other online games weren't as bad as this one when it came to sucking my parents out from under us. My dad wouldn't come to dinner until it was already done and it had been 15 minutes or so. Eventually my father had decided W.O.W. was crappy and went to other online games, my mother went back to Ultima Online and she still plays it today. My dad switched from E.V.E. to Guildwars back to E.V.E. then to Guildwars before going back to World of Warcraft.

I will say, in general Online Gaming games like WOW, U.O. EVE, Guildwars, any of the sorts is horrible for a family. I was forced to grow up quickly, then when I worked on something hard, tried to get my brother to have decent morals it gets taken away from a person who tried to regain her mothership before she was take away again by the online games.

Online games are addictive, W.O.W. is the worst one out there for someone to be addicted to.

I might play an online game but I limit my time, I'm mostly chatting with people on messenger while I hide in my room because I don't have anything in common with my parents anymore despite the fact that I am now 18 and I like only one online game in which I don't play very often. Honestly, Online Gaming has screwed my family over... World of Warcraft though, it's the worst of them because the family time that was there slowly dissipated into grunts, television show then rushing off to play their stupid online games.

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WOW is ruining my marriage and my childrens lives.

Jenn — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:20:23 GMT

I use to play the game till I got tired of it it only took me not even a week to get tired of the game. But now y husband plays it and it is pissing me off because he plays more then the average person, he plays to much in a day about 14 hours a day during the week and plays practically all weekend long which to me is alot, not only am I a WOW widow but my children are WOW orphans and I have tried to talk to him about his addiction and he doesn't seem to be listening to me, I told him I was pregnant and it's like it didn't even phase him nor did I get a response out of him, the only time I actually get his attention is when he talks to me about the stupid game. I am so pissed and I have told him if he wasn't going to stop playing the game that I was taing the children and leaving him and to my surprise he didn't even care, I don't know how many times we have argued over this stupid game and how I have told him that he is neglecting not only me but our children and it doesn't seem to be doing a thing it's like this game has taken over his life and nothing else matters to him... All weekend this weekend all I wanted to do was sped time with him seeing as it's the only time Iget with him and all he did was played WOW, like the guy even dreams and talks about the game in his sleep when he isn't on, I tried to hae an intamate moment with him lastnight and you know what he mentions the stupid game of course. I am at the point where I do not know what to do anymore like I love the guy to death but I am tired of being unhappy because of the game :(.

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A former Wow player's perspective A VICTIM of brainwashing

Darryl — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:17:40 GMT

I know alot of you feel rejected by love ones playing this game, let me give you the other perspective. This is long but if you TRY to understand it, it may make some sense to you and hopefully allow a way to get that person away from the game. The way they addict people is partly the strategy aspect of the game--it is time consuming. And the social pressures and relationship building in order to make the game seem "REAL".

I played this game for almost 2 years just quit it this week (took my credit card info off of it). I used to play 5 times a week, sometimes for 10 hours a day. I got NO WHERE in this game. I never saw a full tier set in the two years i played. I quit for a couple of reason. One, I was starting school and didn't want this to get in the way, and believe me it would have. Second, i was starting to drift apart in my relationships with family and my partner. Thrid, and most of all, in the end, I felt abused by this game. I really feel like after i realised what this game required in the amount of time and effort, that company was screwwing me out of 15 dollars a month.

First off this is a really well developed game. People who love and are additiced to these games are GAMERS. They love to play games, plain and simple. With games pre-broadband, you could play all the content and be done and feel satisfied for a while--a sense of accomplishment with instant short-term gratification i guess you could say. The other half are just freaks that like to play like they are someone esle (role play) because they are either not happy with themselves and want to pretend to be someone else or they are hiddeously ugly or its the only way people will talk to them ect ect...

This game IS designed to take advantage of that but in the opposite direction of non online games. They make getting high level rewards VERY TIME CONSUMING and LONG.. The game is purposely set up this way to make you pay your money each month. Do not listen to the people who say, "oh well its not the games fault" YES IT IS. The developers made it that way on purpose. For example, right now, you run a raid that can take 3 or more days three to four hours a night and never get anything out of it (in the way of stuff to make your character better). Let me take some time to explain this to you in laymon's terms.

You get together with 10 to 25 people to run what is called a raid. The dificulty of these raids requires that many people. It is like a seperate game from the common areas that people run around in. Most of the time the raid require two of each main class of characters. THE MAIN purpose of these raids is to get what is called "Tier sets". A token drops from one or two of the main bosses in EACH raid which can ONLY BE COMPLETE ONCE PER WEEK. Each token that drops is valid for three characters (what we call classes). Each raid will most likely have two or more of the same type of character that qualifies for this token time THREE. So think about it you are actually in competition with possible 6 other people IF AND ONLY IF your token drops. Sometimes they don't drop and BAAM you just wasted a week. When they do drop for your character, thats no gaurantee your gonna get it because the raid LEADER could give it to someone else since He/she is most likely in controll of who gets what. THIS IS INSANE! It is totally made that way so that it takes you and Enormeous amount of time to get to what is called END-GAME. You have to gear from one instance to complete another. Meaning you could spend MONTHS getting geared just to move on to another raid ect...ect....

See how the game is set up to actually MAKE you spend as much time as possible playing in order to see the content it has. This is the crutch for hard core gamers(people who like to CONQUER or finsih games). It takes a tremendeous amount of cooperation between you and 9 to 24 other people playing together and getting to know each other very well to accomplish this sort of thing, so they get you into a social peer pressure situation as well. THAT is the reason you even waste your time in the first place, so its like a two step brainwashing system.

First you start to play the game, it is challenge to get 70 but not all that hard. By the time you get to 70 or shortly there after, you have met hundred of players on-line some of who you have gotten to know well. They all sit around and talk about all the cool stuff they've gotten in the game. YOU want that stuff, you start to group with them to get it BAAM your hooked through social peer pressure and long term relationship building. Remeber the token for the tier sets? Why would you even want them? Because the people who get them in the game are the "Cool people" The people who had friends and guild that got them to end content. They are BETTER than the other people. BAAM peer pressure. Now admitedly, there are people who don't really care one way or the other, but most of them succum to peer pressures in other ways. Wanting to kill other people so they fell better about themselves-pvp.

I could go on and on and on about this...the bottom line is that if you want to save someone from the game YOU HAVE TO make them feel victimized because they are being brainwashed BAD. THATS what makes this game addictive. I swear blizzard has a staff of little evil phsycologists sitting around thinking of ways to make this game more addictive. I finally had enough of it all, if that company thinks they are gonna drag me around like a hustler they got another thing comming.

They could make the game less time consuming by making these raids have options to reset, after you run something so many times you get your teir rewards regardless of a radom friggin drop. Making end game content less reliable on the number of people you have. Alot of people in game don't want that because they would become bored (unbrainwashed) very quickly. SO WHAT, in my opinion that should happen so you can go back to your life for a couple of month. MORE frequent release of expansion would be the cure to that. BUT NO blizzard is laughing at you all the way to the bank people.

Sorry for typos and such

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I don't get you people, it's ONLY A STUPID GAME! GROW UP!

SILVIA — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:05:01 GMT

My husband is so obsessed by this silly game that I almost filed for divorce once because I did not have his attention anymore, he acts like a little kid with a new game only he doesn't get tired of it, he always complains he's so tired when he comes back from work so he doesn't wanna do anything with me and our 2 year old son, then as the time for his "date" with his friends gets closer all of a sudden he can stay up until really late and once again next morning he'll be so tired that he doesn't wanna do anything with us. The time when I almost filed for divorce we agreed that he could only play this much time a day, etc. but as the time passed he started to play a little more and more until he's back to what he used to be, I completely understand to many wives here in the tribe because I know exactly what you're going through. Ah! something else, I realized that all players must pay a fee every month to be able to play! I knew that by a teenage wow player, so on top of the time they loose on that stupid game they also loose our money!
Please let those games for kids or teenagers, you grownups get back to the real world and get a real life! will you?

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I have the perfect solution for all of you

hue — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:31:01 GMT

All you gotta do is quit raiding.
Raiding is pathetic imo, it gives you a sense of accomplishment when honestly, the shit takes no skill at all. Its all about group coordination.

Instead, take up pvp, it takes WAY more skill, You feel way better about beating someone than downing a shitty boss, and the best part is! You only have to play for like 3 or 4 hours a week! Instead of 5+ hours a night!

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I need help...

Gallstaff — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:13:06 GMT

Hi, I recently levelled my alliance warrior to 70 and was wondering if anyone had any advice on how to spec for pvp. I can't decide between arms and fury, and am looking for suggestions. Any help would be appreciated.

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My friend uses WoW as a online dating service.

Jane — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:38:53 GMT

I like most of you, HATE World of WarCrap. {yes that's what I call It} My husband started playing it when it was first released, And things started off ok but soon enough the Game started taking over his life. We have had our MANY, MANY, MANY, arguements about the game, but in time he has come around, and does not play it as much as he used too.
My best friend on the other hand is a whole other story. She's compleatly hooked on it. Not only is she obsssed with playing the game, but she also uses it as a on-line dateing service. Yes people it is true she uses the game to find men. How pathetic. I even told her it's pathetic. She's hooked up with married men, men with girlfriends ect. It's discusting. I tried talking to her, but she won't lisen to me. I don't know what to do. It's got to the point where sometimes I can't even stand looking at her. What ever happen to the good old days when you played a computer game for fun. Now it's either become an addiction, or dating service.

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I Have Discoverd a sly solution on how to get them to quit!

Devin — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:44:02 GMT

Hello my Devin,
I actually experienced world of warcraft, I enjoyed it for a few levels. But l hated the repetitiveness, quest grind level....YAY!...quest grind level..... and so on.

Anyway my father is addicted, However my poor brother..... my laptop has been his slave all summer. Until he got his own. My family rarely interacts with each other and with no help (my parents are divorced) I am left to maintain the entire house, cook, and do "favors" when they dont feel like doing it! Why do i do it? I love them....

For all of you that want to Kill "WoW" I have found a solution! It is a program called utorrent, it does not effect "WoW" directly however it takes a large strain on the program. Utorrent is a downloader of sorts that downloads files called torrents that people put on the Internet, movies, audio books, you name it you can probbly find it.

Ok so this is what you do.....
1. Google "utorrent" and Download the program. (preferably on another computer on the same network)
2. Google something that you would be interested in, and put torrent afterwards. "Harry potter audio book torrent"
3. Click on download and utorrent will come up and start downloading it..

But it will only download for so long....Correct! but afterwards it will automatically start sharing it with all the other people trying to download it. A.K.A "Upload"

The ping will be so high on the game because of a little file sharing! The Internet will not be effected as badly but the game will be so laggy that they get off!!!!

If you need any personal coaching feel free to email me at Devin.holland@earthlink.net

I hope i can help

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The View of a Casual World of Warcraft Gamer

Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:35:52 GMT

I see that a lot of you are in damaged relationships, and that you blame WoW. I understand that most of you will flame me without even reading the full of this post. I hope at least some of you will see what I have to say.

Hello everyone. ^_^ I'm a 23 year old married woman that plays WoW. My husband also plays. We've been playing it together for just over a year now, and our relationship had been six years in progress before we took up the game.

I am a Casual gamer -- I'm on for, at most, three to four hours every few days. My main character has a high rank in a guild comprised of friends -- friends that I've known since high school, friends that went off to college or moved away for work. Friends that I otherwise would have a hard time keeping contact with and to still be able to play games with. Some days, I'll admit, I'm on WoW from around noon until maybe eight in the evening, with breaks to make lunch and dinner, feed the cats, tend to things around the house, answer the phone, take care of personal needs, etc. On Friday or Saturday nights the husband and I either go out with local friends, or we stay in to play with our not so local friends on WoW.

He and I converse outside of WoW. He has more characters than I do, and a few of them are higher level than the other alternate characters (alts, for short) that I play with him; but both of our main characters are at the max level. We mostly play together, though sometimes we quest alone. When I'm not home and he is, he'll play WoW, or some other video game, to pass the time. The same goes for me when he isn't home.

He's going back to school in the spring, and I'll be going full-time with work; so our time online with our friends will be cut back a bit. We'll still get on to do things with them when we can, but we are Casual gamers. There is such a thing.

Having said all of this, I want to say that I can't think of anyone in either of the guilds I belong to, or in the raid alliance (a group of guilds that get together in order to do the harder dungeons), that is addicted to WoW in the way that many of you describe your significant others or family members to be. I'm not trying to say this isn't true in your case, nor am I trying to brag about my circle of friends in game, but I'm trying to give you an idea that being addicted to WoW is not the norm.

All of the people I know stop playing to work, to eat, to sleep, to bathe, to socialize, to be with their families, to watch tv, to read, to go to school, etc. I originally played on a big server, and moved to an even larger one -- people do talk when this sort of thing comes up. Trust me, of the people I know, we're all disgusted to hear about "that one fellow" who neglected his family, or "that one girl" that left her fiancée to be with someone she met in the game. We're all saddened to hear about the children that are neglected because parents get addicted. Please don't assume that all of us band together to defend these people who very, very obviously need help.

But please also don't blame WoW, or Blizzard, or the rest of us who can keep our gaming time separate from our lives. It may hurt to hear it, but if your significant other is burying themselves in WoW, it isn't just WoW to blame. Some people have avoidant tendencies, and they need help. They also need support. They don't need to be yelled at, they don't need their 'drug' ripped away from them in an abrupt fashion. It's cruel, what you're doing. It's cold. There isn't any compassion or love in nagging your significant other endlessly -- it makes them run away even more. It makes them bury themselves even deeper into a fantasy where they can be strong and brave and happy.

If your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, or wife doesn't want to sleep with you, and instead wants to play a computer game? Something is wrong there, and it can't be entirely blamed on WoW. I'm not saying the blame lies fully on you, either -- both of you have a problem. A relationship is, after all, a two-way street, isn't it? Do something to entice him or her, and if that fails, seek counselling. Yelling, screaming, crying.. none of that helps. It may, for some of you, but it won't for most of you. It makes the game more attractive for them -- their characters may encounter hardships, but nothing so severe as having to look into the face of a hurt and enraged loved one. Many of them probably don't have the courage to face that, and so they sink further into their avoidant fantasy of choice.

Have you tried to meet his interests? Have you made a character and tried to play with him? For those of you with only one computer, ask your significant other to take a break and show you how to make a character, and to stand over your shoulder and help you while you play. Try to take an interest in what has captivated them -- it might go a long way toward helping.

For those of you who have made it this far with me, I thank you, and I appreciate you. I know you're in a lot of pain right now. I know you both need help -- especially if there are children in your house. But please, if you love this person, show it. Support groups are key if they are healthy; and this is not a healthy group. This is teaching hate and intolerance, not love and understanding. Call me what you will for that, but if you hate WoW, and your spouse enjoys it, then you hate something about your spouse. It's a hard thing to swallow, isn't it? It hurts to think that you could hate something about someone you love. That you could hate it enough to come online and tell strangers your problems before you would seek counselling in order to preserve the relationship.

I ask that the owner/moderator of this Tribe not remove this, unless responses warrant it. If nothing else, as a WoW player, I wanted to share my side -- our side -- with all of you. I will not respond to flames, so please don't waste your intelligence and effort on them. There is no reason to insult me or my husband or friends. We have done nothing to you. To those that troll this forum -- you sicken me. You aren't helping anyone with your petty attempts at humour. The people here are in pain, and it is very real to them, no matter what you may think.

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It felt Great to Kick WOW!

Jeanne — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:34:18 GMT

I am newly wed of about a couple of months. A couple of nights ago I had a huge fight with my husband, and wow was part of it. We had been fighting prior to him starting the computer up. I asked him to log off so I could tell him why I was the jealous person that I am now. It was because of all the flirting I found out about that he was doing while we were engaged to another married woman (another wow player), among other things. (she ended up in a divorce during our engagement). I know the many possibilities that can happen when one is playing wow, one gets and builds relationships that otherwise wouldn't happen in the real world. Even when he turned the monitor off, he would on occassion hit the keyboard to not lose connection. He accepted a group in the middle of the conversation.

I lost it after that point. I am not a violent type of person, but I turned into the Incredible Hulk shortly after. I disconnected the internet, and kicked the computer as hard as I could. At that moment I wanted him to feel all the rage I had pent up to myself for years. I gotta say it felt soo damn, deliciously great to release all that pent up frustration indirectly to wow, and what it had done in part to our relationship.

I have played the game, and quite frankly I have enjoyed the times I have played alongside with my husband. What i don't like is the isolation, doubt, jealousy, and insecurities the non-constant wow player develops over time. Especially when you don't have a clue to the types of bonds that are being developed while in the real world he tells you that he loves you very much. I was soo upset that I said I was leaving him so he could play all the wow he wanted. I should not have said that, I don't regret kicking the computer. I've searched, waited, and re-searched and there is not an ounce of regret.

Shortly after the fight, he went back to playing wow while I had a long girl talk with my sister. I may one day resume and play wow with my husband. I don't think I will fully embrace it because I don't fully trust it. He said since he married me, that all the flirting has stopped. And that I should take his word for it. For now that is all I can take, is his word for it. I will know if it happens again by my intuition that didn't fail me all those times before..

It is now in the past, foolish and immature as it may be, it would in my imaginaery world be just if just for a change he would have felt all the pain, humilitation, anger, and betrayal I have endured from all the years past from his actions. Instead in the real world I am trying to move past all the negative actions, and try to protect and repair all the positive that is left in my heart for him and us.

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i want to blow up the world of warcraft!!!!!!!!!!!

Jessica — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:47:48 GMT

can we like put a computer virus in this game and blow it up?? can i hire someone to do that??? i absolutely hate this game more than anything....my boyfriend is addicted to it......it has made him soooooooo lazy......and it makes me sick. He swears he's not addicted but uhm.....when ya cant keep your hands off the computer for more than 5 minutes when ya get home i think thats a problem. He like stays at home on a freaking saturday night when im out to have a "raid" with a bunch of people from around the world!!! It makes me want to throw up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He never wants to leave the house!! im surprised he even has a job!!!!

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i made a group for girls on myspace who hate wow because its ruined there relationship

Brandi — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:06:18 GMT

soo if you wanna join it go right on
i need to get the word out how wow can ruin your relationship

http://groups.myspace.com/GirlsAgaintsWoW

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Very good advise tho i dont "hate" wow

David — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:35:50 GMT

Just want you to know there is allot of good information here and i will be personally recommending these discussions to a few people i know.

I personally have a wow account and play along with a selection of other games i enjoy, i also have a life, a beautiful partner who is the world to me, a successful career and plenty of friends (and by friends i mean people in real life i can see and touch).
I also have an addiction, Smoking, just FYI i don't think myself immune to addiction.

And on the subject of addiction people with an addictive personality trait need to look at the reasons why you do what you are doing, in my case i smoke because i feel i need to, its not the reason i started smoking but i got addicted, this is part of my personality and its something i need to actively watch probably for the rest of my life, if i didn't watch myself i would also be addicted to wow, or working, or my car, or taking long rides in the forest ect, but i don't want to give up doing any of these things because i enjoy them, but once something moves from "i want" to "I need" that's when it turns into addiction, i don't see WoW as anymore evil than the company i work for or the crew of overpaid Italians that made my car, its my own problem that i need to deal with and it would do me no justice blaming the world.

So just a bit of advise to those reading the that play WoW, if you find yourself saying "I need to raid" "I need to get 300 more arena points" "i need to get my T6 gloves" its likely time to stop for a second and spend time with your love, go for a walk or do some study.

And FYI if you want to raid there are allot of casual guilds out there with mature GM's that understand you need to have a life and have life's themselves

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my family is being ripped apart.

Cassy — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:59:35 GMT

My fiance started playing wow when it first came out about 6 months after we moved in together. He's become a totally different person. Sometimes if I don't deliver dinner to him at the computer, he doesn't eat. We have a son that will be a year old next month. What happens when he's old enough to understand that a computer game is more important then he is? Or what happens when I try to tell him he can't spend all his time on the computer, but Daddy can? The worst thing is, I can't seem to convince my fiance that what he's doing is NOT NORMAL, because there's about 3 billion other assholes online every night telling him it's perfectly acceptable to risk losing everything for a game that has completely consumed his life. I really don't know how much longer I'm going to take second place to a video game. I think it might just feel better if he cheated on me. I would feel no guilt leaving him then.

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The bottom

James — Sun, 03 Jun 2007 02:11:13 GMT

On june 3rd 2006 at 11:20 am I payed my firs installment of 14.99 to Blizzard. My girlfriend and I at that time enjoyed playing it together. I had recently become unemployed and unfortunately I had alot of time on my hands. I became obsessed with raiding and getting better gear. I got up to level 60 and all my gear was "epic." I was obsessed with killing people in battlegrounds and I would play sometimes all day from within minutes of waking until 4-5 the next morning. The burning crusade came out and I stopped playing for a little while because I had started a new job and had resparked my interest in life. This only lasted a short time and I began to play again leveling my character up to level 70 as soon as got home from work. I would play from the time i got off work until i could barely keep my eyes open. I completely disregarded the needs of my girlfriend. I became irritable. By irritable, i mean I became a total asshole. I cussed and blew up over nothing at all. I lost my job due to the constant arguing with my girlfriend and I slept very little. My girlfriend finally met someone that listened to her and gave her the attention she deserved. She broke up with me and I had to move out. I was in school and at first I had a 4.0 gpa. I failed 2 classes and now cannot re-enroll for financial aid. I am 27 years old and I am writing this from my mother's house. I had to move in here as my money ran out and my girlfriend began spending all night with another man. I just uninstalled WOW and I feel that I should of done it a long time ago. My addictive personality can be a very positive thing when im interested in Art, music , work or school. In the case of World of Warcraft, I allowed a ridiculous game to completely ruin my life. I said horrible things to a woman that I know loved me and was torn apart by my addiction. I am sure that she will never forgive me so I am trying to move on with my life. In the meantime, I am overwhelmed with sadness and deep seeded depression. I am going to get my life back together because I have shattered it with this obsession. I love her so much and I completely destroyed her faith in me. I am intelligent, creative and a fairly good looking man. I was once extremely clever and confident and now I am a total wreck. The world was mine for the taking and I instead sat in a room getting out of shape using my talents to beat up on the characters on little kids and social outcasts. I am too embarassed to admit what I have done to any of my friends or family so I decided to write my story here in hopes of stopping someone else from ruining their life as well. I recently had a friend die and hthis event ended up teaching me so much about life. I am not a religious person so I do not beliueve in 2nd chances or an afterlife. I have completely ignored all my other hobbies for an entire year. I have drank and gambled, I have lied and I have cheated. I have done all the things that makes someone look like a piece of shit. I am going to get my life in order and go out of my way to treat future relationships with love and respect. If you knew the woman that I have lost, you would understand that I have made an enormous mistake. Thanks for reading my posting and wish me luck as I become reborn and start the only quest that ever matters; life. I am going to live and be happy. I am going to love and be loved. I am going to erase this year from my mind and work harder than ever to live up to my enormous potential. Thank you for having this tribe and thank you for hearing my story.

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Wow ruined my life..

hue — Tue, 01 May 2007 06:02:15 GMT

About 2 years ago I was in college.
It was my 3rd year and I was going for my masters. One days (I was 25 at the time) I found wow at a local EB games. I picked it up and decided to try it. From there on it was love. At first I played 1-2 hours a day. But as I played more I became more addicted I wanted to reach higher goals, get better gear, and crit higher. I started playing 5, 6, 7 hours a day until I lost my girlfriend and my grades started to drop. At first it wasnt terrible I went from A's and B's to A-'s and B's. But this continued until I was failing college ( I was a marine biology major, genetics minor btw). I went on academic probation and dropped out 2 months later. I now live with my parents. They support me. I play wow everyday and since I cant get a girlfriend I sometimes use my dog. It has gotten terrible to the point where I think about ending it all. And I mean it all. Please someone help me, I must quit this game, but I cant its just WAY to fun.

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Teared apart.

Nicole — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:16:49 GMT

Me and my boyfriend have been in a long distance relationship (800km) for over 7 months now, and everything was fine until world of warcrack began to take over.

The first incident occured just 2 months into the relationship. Everything was perfect, until suddenly I no longer recieved replies to text messages, and my calls were rejected. I started to get worried, as before this I knew hardly anything about the game or how often he played. As far as I knew, it was just one of his hobbies on the side that he used to fill up spare time.
Anyway, for about a week prior to this starting, I gave up on contacting him. I was informed by one of his close friends at the time, that he had spent the past week playing WoW, almost 24/7. For the next week and a half, I sat up alone at night, thoughts racing through my head on what to do about this whole situation, usually ending in tears. A good friend of mine (and an enemy of my boyfriends) knew the situation, and was trying to help cheer me up with some jokey comments on each others myspaces. A few days later, at about 2am, I get a series of text messages from my boyfriend, some abusing me saying things like, "You are such a fcuking slut, why don't you just go fcuk him now," others like "I can't believe you, I hate you so much."

I replied simply with, "None of this would've happened if you payed more attention to reality."
After a few hours of him recieving my text, he replied, apologising, saying it would never happen again, promising me that he would NEVER ditch me for a game ever again.
That same night, we spoke on the phone for over an hour, with many mixed emotions. We sorted it all out, he apologised to me, and swore that he would never do it again, explaining that WoW is addictive and he got caught up in his own world. He even asked me if I would marry him when he comes to see me next. He was really commited.

Everything was fine after that, and there was only one small incident of WoW before what happened 2 weeks ago.
He got accepted into a guild that raids, from ridiculous hours (around 6pm - 2 - 5am) and he met a girl, the same age as me that he seems to talk to alot.
Since then, I've talked to him for a maximum of 20 minutes for this entire week. What did we talk about? Sex, WoW and this "fantastic" girl he met on WoW.
We fought for most of those 20 minutes.
He denyed chosing a game over me, and whenever I told him that I wanted to be able to spend more time with him, he just told me to stop acting like a 5 year old.
I am only 14, and he is 18, but from what I have said here, am I acting like a 5 year old?
All I asked for was a compromise. Anything where I get to talk to him more.
He is the love of my life. He even said so himself. Yet, when I asked him what he would do if we ever fell apart, he simply said, play WoW.
Yet thats what hes doing, and I'm still here. Its like I'm second best to him. He leaves me for tuesdays, when WoW shuts down for maintenence, or 5am phone calls every couple of weeks.

He's become agrivated and angry, he's full or rage. For someone who was once a loving boyfriend, and son, he has turned into nothing but an obsessed monster.
I don't see him for the person he was before. He has changed completely over the time space of a few weeks, all because of WoW.
He claims that he loves me, and he would never leave me. But he has. He isn't there for me anymore when I need him, he doesn't even pay attention to me when I'm lying on the floor, throwing up, and yes this has happened.
For some reason, I still love him and want to spend my life with him.
I don't know whether to blame this all on WoW, or on him. Or maybe me. Who knows.
For me, its back to lonely days, and teary nights.
I better finish this here, before I drown in all these tears.

Thank you all for reading.
Anyone with some advice, It would be much appreciated.
And again, thank you for your time. Everyone else out there in the same kind of situation as me, and most of you worse, I wish you luck.

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Former WoW addict needs some advice

Shane — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:47:04 GMT

I am a former addict. I still play, just not nearly as much as I used. I have felt seen the results and repercussions of what happens when you take this game to far. I used to spend 16-18 hours at a time on this game, either PvP'ing, farming or raiding. I would skip meals, or order pizza off the internt cause I could tab out in windows mode, order my pizza, then go back to playing. I ignored a lot of people when the game first came out. I used to have a social life, and ride my Harley around. After launch day, my friends would stop by to ask if I wanted to ride or go out for a few beers and I would always tell them I am busy. I would play from the minute I got home from work until sometimes the next day when it was time to shower and go to work again. I was married at this time as well, and my marriage fell apart. You cant move a city bred girl from Cali to the country side of PA to work and ignore her for a video game and think life is great at the same time. She moved away, we divorced and I became even more addicted to the game.

I now have 4 level 70 characters and a bunch of different low characters on different servers. Only thing I usually do now is use WoW as a messenger to keep in touch with real life friends on different servers who still play. This is where I need some advice. Christmas time last year my friend started playing. She's married, husband is in the army, leaving for Korea soon, and she has few kids. She's addicted to WoW and hates me when I tell her she is. She has been playing 6 months and has 3 level 70 characters already. She gets up, 8 AMish or whenever the baby gets up and gets on WoW and sometimes when I log off yahoo at 2 AM, she is still on WoW. Earlier she told me I sound too much like her damn husband when I told her she needs to take a break, that she's an addict.

I dont want her to end up where I was. But she continues to think that "its just a game". It is just a game....if you let it be that. An outlet to have some fun when your bored or dont have other things to do. She asked me today what I do in my spare time. I read, play with my beautiful 3 year old Siberian Husky, remodel my parents house for them, and go out. I tell her this and her snide comment is something along the effects of her going out with the neighbor to cheat on her husband.

Any advice. Because what helped me stop my addiction is clearly not gonna help her stop hers. I quit playing 24/7 cold turkey. Some might find that as a shock, but I did the same thing with smoking 3 years ago. Cold Turkey. Its a matter of knowing what the right thing to do is, and doing it. I realize some may need outside help, I know I did when my doctor diagnosed me as a border line alcoholic and that I needed help. That and the realization that a military court martial was gonna be slapped on me if I didn't seek help for the trouble and mischief I had caused drinking night after night. Thats why I turn to you guys. You might have some insight to help me help her in ways I don't know how.

-Thanks, Shane

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Why I hate WOW

Keith — Thu, 11 May 2006 07:17:40 GMT

I have standards for how I spend my time. There are so many good, fulfilling things you can do in this world, so many great games, movies, music, books, activities to do, it's rediculous.

WOW was created with one thing in mind: to keep you playing. Note, that "keeping you playing" and "being fun" are two different things. Fun is created by tension and an overall feeling of either moving towards an end point (Which wow has none) or gaining personal skill at something (the skills used for wow are just slightly above those used for Diablo II, basically it's mind numbing for the most part.). So, without these, the game isn't fun. The game is addicting. We're driven to play it becuase we want to get that next level, that next number. But that's not FUN, it's addiction. It's a weird neurosis that human beings have - you could call it greed - and Blizzard is exploiting this as much as they can. Bill Roper's now infamous Carrot and the Stick presentation about how basically we shouldn't penalize the player and instead constantly sprinkle them with very small bonuses illustrated Blizzard's mastery of the slot-machine tactic. WOW can be likened very closely to a slot machine, designed to keep you playing and create the illusion that you're doing something. But you're not doing anything, except wasting your time and money. I really think WOW is a terrible example of what videogames can be, and I'd say it's the closest to evil that any game has ever come. Games can teach us so much, they can cause us to exercise and expand our minds, but not WOW. That's why I hate it.

I'm glad to see there is a tribe for wow haters.

PS - I notice that there are many of you who hate wow simply because it took so many hours of your life away. While this is an entirely valid reason to be angry, I think it's also important to note that the nature of the game is what caused you to spend those hours and at the end feel empty. If you spent all those hours playing BASKETBALL or playing chess or I'd argue WarCraft III (an ENTIRELY different animal than World of Warcraft), you wouldn't feel empty, because you had gotten better at something.

Anyway thanks again for reading.

-Keith
-www.dinosaurlightning.com
-www.vgcb.net - my video game cover band

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List of symptoms - Addicts.

Charlie — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:17:59 GMT

Psychological Symptoms
Having a sense of well-being or euphoria while at the computer
Inability to stop the activity
Craving more and more time at the computer
Neglect of family and friends
Feeling empty, depressed, irritable when not at the computer
Lying to employers and family about activities
Problems with school or job

Physical Symptoms
Carpal tunnel syndrome
Dry eyes
Migraine headaches
Back aches
Eating irregularities, such as skipping meals
Failure to attend to personal hygiene
Sleep disturbances, change in sleep pattern

I think partner's should show this to their addicted other halves.

I play a lot, but can gladly say that none of the Physical ones affect me, and only 1 or 2 Psychological ones, slightly affect me.

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i hate wow

April — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:32:32 GMT

My boyfriend has been playing WOW since it was released. at fist i didn't think it was that big of a deal. I have never had anything against video games,in fact I have always like playing games,I even had my own WOW account for a short time, vids are fun but should not consume your life! This game has become addictive for many people.I feel like it ha stole my boyfriend from me. I think it is very important that couples set side time everyday to spend time together,to bond.I understand that playing WOW is fullfilling and makes these people happy when they play,gives them a chance to spend time with friends who they normally don't get to spend time with.
Our typical days for the past few years has been this; Boyfriend wakes up before me like 7/8 goes pee than gos and sits at the computer to play WOW,and smoke pot. I than wake up to the sounds of the keyboard or Team speak (him talking to his WOW party via microphone and headset) I go to work, hours later come ho9me to find that he is in the same spot smoking weed and playing WOW.I will try to get him to go out with me and do something anything!! Granted sometimes he will but most of the time no. He will continue to smoke pot and play that damn game until i finally fall asleep.Than the next day its the same thing.I get sick over the whole thing! literally i get so upset my stomach gets these excrutiating pains in it and ill have diareaha. I dont know how to deal with this anymore Its driving a big wedge between us.
ok well thats my rant on that. thanks for listening.

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God damn, is it really that serious?

PJ — Tue, 15 May 2007 14:41:34 GMT

I was supposed to go out to have dinner with some friends from class and my boyfriend, but he decided not to go since he was raiding. Mind you, we rarely go out together at all anymore. I have lost sympathy for his WoW excuses. "The only raid happening this weekend?" I understand the game is a social game, but it just seems so silly to me. It's like a binding contract or something where he'd actually lose something meaningful if he didn't raid. I have online friends, too, but deng. These people unconsciously hinder his progress in the real world just so they can use his level 60 whatever in a raid without a second thought. He never played WoW this much when we first started dating back in December. That all changed in January when the expansion came out.

He stopped calling to say good night, and he always wakes up around 1-3 p.m. now. Let me explain my Valentine's Day: we had class at 6, and he meets me at 3:30, in which we just sit around because he's too tired to do anything from a long night of WoW. On another day, I was over at his house (which is a 45-minute drive from mine) where I met him at his PC. Why would anyone play WoW when you have company over? It's just rude. I tried crawling in his lap so we could, you know, get jiggy with it, but he just looked at me and said "I'll pay attention to you later when I'm done with this." Then when some stupid crap pisses him off in the game (he couldn't go on some raid because there was a limit on people and he signed up but they dropped him in all the confusion or something), he lets it affect his real-life mood.

So, I've pulled the break-up card now, hoping for something good. My demands aren't even incredible. All I ask for is that he puts me before WoW. Not even giving it up, but to put my being before a video game. Take me out occasionally instead of using debt money on a second monitor and a video card to keep me happy. I'm going to start blowing him off when he wants to hang out. Tit-for-tat and such.

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WOW Makes you lazy

The S-MAN — Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:40:47 GMT

I wanted to ask if anyone is having the same problem I am at my home. First off I don't want to give any names or anything so I will keep it simple.

I live in a home with 4 PCs, One in my room, one in the living room, one in my roomates room and another in another roomates room. Now we live in a home with, I won't give a total, quite a few people. I can't keep a full time job myself because of health reasons so my wife flips the bill on our part of the rent, anyway I try to help out the home owners wife with housework and laundry and things like that so she doesn't have to do all these things by herself with all the people here.

The other roomates don't do anything but eat, sleep and play WOW. Now there is nothing wrong with playing an online game, I even gave one similar to it a go, but you can't let it make you lazy. These guys do not work they do not try to look for work and do not help with the house. All they talk about is WOW and have spent alot of money on the game while not contributing to the household. Which is terrible considering that only 2 of us have regular jobs.

Are you gonna play this game if you have no electricity? Well then you should start helping with the bill right? I think it's pathetic that I can help out with house duties and have bad health, but these guys can play all the time and lounge. When they are asked to do something "ASKED" they either do it and b***h or make an excuse why they can't or worse yet try to give you a guilt trip as to why you aren't able to do it yourself. Now take in mind we are talking guys 21 to 30 in age! Oh and God forbid if the router gets bumped while you are cleaning!!!!

So you can see Wow is not my favorite game for the simple fact it has made this home hard to keep up!!!!

I'd like to know if anyone else has this same problem!!!!

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NEW ANTI WOW SITE

chrystal — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:42:19 GMT

http://www.myspace.com/wowsucksass

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All WoW haters please read =]

Nicole — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:48:27 GMT

I know this isnt the place for advertising, or anything of the sort, but I just thought I'd inform you of a tribe for people like us.
WoW - The haters and discriminaters
Please, all of you out there that hate WoW, join this tribe..
I just thought that we all need a place to vent, and get advice and here there seems to be alot of people defending the game.
Join a tribe where theres people who share your opinion and experiences.
Thanks guys, much appreciated.

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Watch this

Joe — Wed, 30 May 2007 13:49:42 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp3Ojsykf3s&mode=related&search=

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wow slowly sucks out your soul

erika — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:50:10 GMT

ok so this is really making me mad. my roomate is experiencing the same thing i went thru two years ago with my ex. her boyfriend started playing wow a couple months ago and slowly every day it has sucked him in more and more to the point where he rarely even talks to her anymore. when confronted about it, he gets mad and says he doesnt have a problem, but its making her really upset. in the beginning he said that wow would never win out over her, but it has happened. she doesnt know what to do or what to say anymore. anyone got any suggestions? because when i had the problem i just broke up with the guy because he was a big jerk. but my roomates boyfriend isnt a jerk at all. in fact hes a real nice guy under all the wow. it just seems like hes getting lost. :(

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World of warcraft at school

Sawyer — Mon, 28 May 2007 19:00:33 GMT

Hi there people

Im new here and im explaining how much World of Warcraft has influenced mine and other peoples lives.
Now, everytime i go to school i hear something about World Of Warcraft. I can tell you that it is VERY annoying!! "I've gotta level 47 priest and he has a cloak that boosts his health by 21!!" i heard at school today! On and on and on people talk about it!

I hate it!

If you play WoW and you are reading this mesage, please stop before it is too late. Before your brain is absorbed by its weapons and lands!! Please stop playing it! Please please please!

And dont tell me "oh stop nagging! its a free world!" because as i write this i have just been with my friend at a pub watching football with my real friends, talking in real life, to a real life person in real life, rather than on a computer screen!

Peace out! And destroy World Of Warcraft!! Please!!

Kill----> WoW

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My battles.

kerry — Mon, 14 May 2007 01:40:53 GMT

I started playing wow when it first came out, (13/8/05) my b'day my mother bought me the game along with an ipod and upgrades for my PC.

I started playing WoW for like 1-2 hours a day, once i hit level 20 then 4-5 hours, then once i hit 60 i wouldent goto school, i would just sit at my PC playing 12-14 hours a day.

My pc was in my room next to my bed i would wake up goto the toilet go and get a pack of chips and go back to my room and hop on the PC right away and start playing, i never used to eat much unless the food was bought to me so my mum used to bring dinner down and i would eat at the PC, then when i got so tired i couldent stay awake i would take 2 steps to my bed and fall asleep.

My mum got very upset as i put on alot of KG's never went to school, lost all respect for my family and friends, and just went down hill.

Then it got to the stage when i stole my mums CC and spent $4,000 AUS on Items, Gold and WoW accounts, i enjoyed them for 4 hours and then mum came home from work and she logged onto paypal and noticed all the money missing and what it was used on, that was the last straw for mum and she started getting up me and we used to fight alot, she begged me to goto school, she kicked me out and i lived in a refuge for a few months and mum couldent handle not having me around so she asked me to come back and when i did it was back to the same old habbits.

I played WoW so much that i lost my girlfriend, all my RL friends and my family, it got so bad again that my mum called Today Tonight and asked them to coem and speak to me, when they did i tryed to hold up and have the interview with them but i broke down and ran to my bedroom.

It wasent untill i got kicked from a guild and started crying over it that i saw what this game was doing to me, i got so angrey and deleted the game went to my draw and snaped all the disks up and deleted all restore points on my pc so i would never play again, once i done this 10 minutes after i snaped out of it and thought about what i done i tryed to find a way to install it again (Yes after 10 minutes of not having it) and it dident work.

I was crying on my floor in my room when my mum came home from work and she asked me what was wrong and i explained she said it was a good thing and she would help me anyway should could.

We started doing things together as a family, she bought me dvds, she done everything to keep my mind off the game, it took me about 3 months to forget it all together.

Then i added up how much money i had spent on the game, it added upto well over $20,000 and then thought how i could have owned a car and all the nice things i could have bought with that money.

After all thattime of not playing it ive completed my year 10, started a job as a chef and getting on with life, now i feel strong enuf to speak about it, and i will be having an interview with TT again soon about this and how/what it does to people and family, so if your from AUS keep an eye out for that.

I still have very low self esteem and find it hard to cope and i wanted to play WoW latley and that what bought me to right this, to remind me what pain and trouble it made.

In alot of ways im still not over WoW.

In the end....
I lost my girlfriend.
I put on 41 KG's
I spent $20,000
I lost all my friends.
I lost all my family but my mum who stuck by me.

I saw this site and thought i may be able to help some people on here so i will be sticking around for awhile...

Sorry for the long post.

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How to help someone see they have a problem

Betty — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:44:13 GMT

Ok, I know that the only way you can help someone is if they realize they have a problem themselves. But what if they don't think they have a problem?

My brother (28 years old!) is still living at home, playing wow upwards of 12 hours a day (from what I've seen while over, and from family accounts). He gets angry when anyone questions his playing, skips meals, or eats fastfood while playing, has gained 50lbs, rarely goes out, and is generally quite a bitch to be around. I'm also fairly certain he has met a girl online playing this game (he's done it before, total fiasco, very strange person showed up at my parent's house).

I think he has a problem, my family thinks he has a problem, and his friends (not many left) think he has a problem.

It's so frustraiting to see someone with so much potential waste it away infront of a useless video game.
I would love any suggestions anyone has to give to help him see that he has a problem.

p.s. He has his own computer he plays on (laptop and desktop) and pays with his own credit card, so trying to cancel the subscription is not really an option.

p.p.s. Whats with the headphones with the microphone? can these people talk to each other?

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Gamer Widow website

BlueBird — Tue, 08 May 2007 20:02:25 GMT

Hi all,

I ran across this website, Gamer Widow, the other day. It's amazing. Probably a lot of people on here also read the posts on that website. I feel that that site is much more supportive and non-judgemental - nobody is accusing the Gamer Widows of being clingy and controlling! Check it out! http://www.gamerwidow.com/

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I actually hate WoW for a good reason

Edward — Fri, 04 May 2007 13:22:58 GMT

It seems a lot of people here blame WoW for various things that have happened to them, when it's actually appears to be the inconsiderate people who play it that cause the problems. Well, I actually detest World of Warcraft for some real game-playing reasons.

1) MMORPG is a contradiction in terms.

RPG stands for role-play game. The only thing WoW has in common with RPG's is the combat and character advancement systems. Thanks to it's massively-multiplayer online (the MMO bit) architecture, nothing you do in the game can possibly have any lasting effect on the it's world. If you can't actually do anything with any meaning, how can you actually role-play? Everything you can do in the game has be able to be done buy someone else at a later date. You can kill the same people over and over again. They just reappear. The same groups and cabals can be split up as many times as you can be bothered to start new characters to do the same quests for the same rewards. See what I'm getting at? Yes? Good.

2) The Design is Style over Substance

Yes, it's a good looking game. Yes, the back-story is fascinating. Yes, the sense of humour is good *and* unique. But the actual design and gameplay? Once you've learned to look past the facade, it's actually really crap. "Instances" are dungeons full of creatures that you're supposed to do as a team with other people, and each group gets it's own copy of the instance, hence the name. These dungeons are generally full of creatures who either stand around until you get close enough and attack you, or walk around until you get close enough and attack you. There are precious few occasions when they make what could be called decent tactical moves. Most of the time, they'll stand around laughing and talking among themselves while you merrily slaughter their colleagues on the other side of the room. Instances are merely an excuse to jack the difficulty up, making it seem like there's some real advancement in difficulty level, giving you better armour and weapons... they're just areas full of bad guys that stand around waiting for you to kill them. Oh, how simply *amazing* and groundbreaking. Hell, they couldn't even do anything about that in the add-on pack. They made it even worse. And that's the biggest reason I cancelled my WoW account yesterday.

3) It... does things to the people who play it.

This isn't limited simply to World of Warcraft, most MMORPG's have this problem. And I don't know if it's the games that do it or merely the people attracted to them are somehow socially stunted. Probably a combination of the two. But while I was trying to express to my guild the reasons I had lost interest in the game, one of them bit my head off. He didn't work on the game in any way what-so-ever, didn't write, didn't sculpt, didn't draw, didn't have ANY creative input in at all. And yet he took everything I said personally. It was as though I'd walked into a Taliban meeting and said "Hey! Don't you think that's a bit, you know, harsh?" Of course, his line was that I was slagging off an activity shared by a lot people. Er, excuse me, I've been playing this game since *BEFORE* it came out, I was in the European open beta test, what's with suddenly treating me like a clueless outsider? Oh, I'm sorry, did I point out the flaws in something you've been spending way too much time playing that has become more like an obsession to you? Could it possibly be that you've forgotten that people actually get paid to criticize games in exactly the way I did? They're called Journalists! WoW is just a computer game! Get a sense of perspective on the world and... oh, you've kicked me out of the guild, thus removing any conduit through which a civilized, reasonable, decent discussion about the game could have taken place. And here was me thinking you were a sensible, decent human being. I don't think you even pass as a human being anymore.

Me? Upset? Bitter? Livid? Nevaah! I got emotionally stomped on while trying to let some people I cared about know that I wasn't leaving the game because of them. Well, now I *AM* leaving the game because of them.

Assholes.

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How do I....

Sara — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:37:46 GMT

My boyfriend says he's not addicted. WHATEVER!!! He can't be indoors and not have his computer on to, if not an instance, at least something related to WoW.

So what do I say back when he says, "I'm not out drinking or doing drugs"? What do I say to a man who is shy and has a tough time forming real relationships, to let go of the thing that has allowed him to make new friends, and seems to have held him afloat after his wife left him, he lost his job, he lost his house, and almost most importantly, lost his dog?

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Calling Scottish WoW gamers

Adam — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:45:48 GMT

Hello, I am a freelance journalist looking into MMORPGs in general – and the world of WoW in particular – and am keen to talk to gamers in Scotland. I'm interested in the highly enjoyable – some might say addictive – nature of the game. So are/were you hooked? Help me to understand the online experience and why it's so difficult to put the mouse down and log out. Perhaps it's taken a toll on your personal or work life? If you are happy to share your experiences on the record, please don't hesitate to contact me. Maybe you know someone who's 'hung up their keyboard' because they were spending too much time online. Please pass the message on.

Many thanks,
Adam

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Why i hate wow!!

Kerstin — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:07:35 GMT

Yes yes like all of you i HATE wow!!! i hate it soo much, dont think i didint give it a try i did Believe me i did. I got to level 4 and then quit it had no point i ran around in circles looking for what to do! i dont understand it! my boyfriend loves this game, and i mean LOVE. He loves it so much that he has to plan out days to hang out with me! He loves it so much that he has to bring over his entire computer over to my house and play it, because my computer does not have a good enough GRAphic CARD!!! Come on! I mean we have so many talks about this!! he knows that this is getting bad, all he does is play, he drives to work, works, drive home and plays till like 3 in the morning. Its really starting to screw up his way of sleeping! i get worried, i mean i had to wait at his house till 7 a.m. so he could get off of wow!! Like even at work he talks to wow, infact he has gotten people around him playing it!! i understand this whole guild thing as well, he would go to the people houses and have land parties? why in the hell would u bring ur entire computer over and sit around on a a table with ur headphones on and talk to the people around you on ur headset when there freaking right next to u!!!! i dont get it, please if anyone else has this problem please let me know!

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Who will join me to Buy out WoW? :D

Alex — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 18:25:16 GMT

Who out there will help me buy out WoW.
Continue it on for say a year. Take all the profits and then Shut it down.
We can keep the other games open. But just get rid of WoW.
I have so many mates thats are starting to be sad Bas**rds and not coming out no more.

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How to quit WoW

lohtac — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 06:24:02 GMT

I believe there is a HUGE community of people out there who know they are addicted, and want to stop, but for their own reasons, havent yet.

Here is how I quit WoW.

First, my qualifications : (skip, boring read) played for about 20 months. At the height, 40+ hrs / week. Deleted 3 70s, due to needing space for new chars on my favorite servers. Could solo MC attunement run. Had an epic flying mount 1 week after expansion. etc etc etc...

Got fed up finally, knew, could FEEL it, that I needed to quit. I Wanted to quit. But simply walking away, I knew my chars, or even an empty account, would lure me back, and it would start all over again.

So I opened an account on a gold buyers website and went to town.

Over the span of almost 3 days, I sold 2000 gold. I made $70. It felt soooo goooood. The game was fun again, I was giddy with excitement. I farmed motes of water from the small lake east of shattrah. I put primal motes of water on the AH for 20g a pop. I was able to 2 shot the eels in the lake, and made a buttload of gold very quickly.

The morning of the 3rd day, I couldnt log in, my account was banned. It was a mix of "ARRRRGHHHHH!!!" and "ahhhhh finally....". The closest I can explain it was like the scene in water world, where the old guy in the oil hold sees the fire coming down, and, knowing it was going to kill him, sighs "thank jesus".

I honestly havent felt the urge to go back, and its been almost 2 months. My friends think Im nuts for going out the way I did, I think it was hillarious, and I feel better than I have in over a year. Im back in to weight lifting, runing, and most importantly, my social life is growing again.

I would definetly recommend this method, as it is permanent, un-retractable, and fun. Have something to fill the void after you do this, pick up a guitar or a 2nd language or SOMETHING, ANYTHING!! :-) It helps. It also feels good to help other people quit, trust me.

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Details of how I sold the gold for real money :

I have a paypal account (free)
I went to mmoinn.com and signed up (free)
I saw on mmoinn.com there was a need for alliance gold on perenolde, and how much they would pay for it
I filled out the sell gold form
In game, i mailed the gold to the character they specified
(At this point I was highly skeptical it would work, I half expected to lose 800g)
minutes later, the mmoinn account had a credit applied to it
i withdrew it to paypal

I took screenies of all this if anyone needs to see them.

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another night ruined cuz of WoW

Freeda — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:58:33 GMT

So heres what happened. I was really missing my Boyfriend today so I decided to pick him up a present on my way home from class. I figured why the hell not. So I bought him a WoW Atlas. I wrapped in up in red paper and even put a silver bow on it. I was gonna finish off the night by treating him extra sweet, then giving him his gift. So I go up stairs to tell him I have a surprise. He says ok he'll stop playing in an hour. An hour passes and he stops playing. We watch tv for a little bit. Some show called battle star galactica (I have no idea what is going on btw, but I sit there and watch anyways, waiting for the right time to call him upstairs to unvail my surprise. Commercial comes and I change the channel to a movie. After about 5 mins of the movie he annouces he's bored and he's going to play a 10 minute game. 10 Mins later I call him to the room. He says NO. I walk over to the study and ask again (Using my sweet voice). He curses underneath his breath and ask him to leave him alone.....and then he states "Its my weekend too". So much for my surprise. I go into the bedroom and start typing up my thoughts. And 20 mins later he storms in. I shut my laptop. He gets into bed and annouces "Only 6 more months till the lease is up, and we can move out". I of course was hurt by this. But I swallow my pride. I instead present him with his gift. He opens it and says thanks. Then proceeds to tell me he doesn't want to snuggle...and so on. I of course am crying at this point.........I dont understand. In the end I apologized about a million times for asking him to stop playing. I really dont know anymore. I hate this fucking game. I hate it i hate it i hate it. this is the last time I try to do something sweet and out of the blue for him.......

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you ppl are dumb

joe — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:26:39 GMT

ey you all need to get a life.....lol
Make a club about the war in Iraq or how about how our rights as americans are being taken away or how all these school shooting are tearing the fabric of our society down...

If you have a problem with wow like you can;t stop playing thats the least of your prob's lol its not the game thats the prob its you thats the prob!!!!

Take responsibility for your actions and don't blame it on somthing.....god the world is full of ppl like you guys! STOP LOOK LISTEN

Blaming is a thinking error, ask any drug counselor or doctor they'll tell you the same thing, like i said before if u have a prob with someone playing wow or you have a prob playing it yourself its not wow that the prob its YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the time.......

p.s im sure you'll all have somthing to say about this flame me if u want i don't care its not me that has a prob.....lol
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How do you make it stop....

Brandy — Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:21:32 GMT

How do you make it stop, I mean I have thoughts like throwing the pc out or cutting the cords or even hunting down the people who made the game and stab them in the eye or something ( not really but almost) is there any solutions?

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Quit your crying.

Philip — Thu, 11 May 2006 19:41:15 GMT

Is it safe to assume that MOST of you here haven't even tried WoW yourself?
Perhaps.
You fear what you don't know, big historical surprise, animosity of the unknown.

WoW is not your problem, it's not WoW itself, if its not WoW it’s something else then, it is the user, it is the structure of the relationship.

I am in a fantastic relationship and I play games, sometimes she joins me.
It’s hard for her to hate something she was shown and is educated about, she understands.
Compromise is important in a relationship, we both understand that and most importantly act on it.
Addicts as you call them have conceivably long lost any respect for you, they see and purely understand your concerns if that doesn’t bother them well then it is time to re-evaluate your relationship from the ground up.

I play WoW and other games but only when we need the time apart we all do in a healthy relationship, she reads a book, watches her soap opera, browses the net, I do what I find interesting and it's to play a damn game, if it's not a game then I go to the gym or take my lab to the lake.
For people in a struggling relationship, your problems go much deeper then WoW, we all have various distractions, interests and blaming WoW for all your problems is being ignorant, neurotic & immature, ESPECIALLY using such strong misguided words like ‘HATE’.
A similar emotional trait found in people who blame video games for adolescent school violence.
This is like a AA meeting gone horribly wrong, where everybody is in a circle, drinking their drink of choice complaining how they have a problem with alcoholism. Got a problem? DO something about it, quit your crying.

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I dont know what to do...

Jane — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:55:46 GMT

My friend Dave is completely addicted to Wow... it's been three weeks since I saw him last, and his phone's gone out of service and everything. The only way that I know he's still around Vancouver and alive is that one of my colleagues saw him on the street, and he told my colleague that it'd been weeks since he left his basement!! How can I help him get out of this addiction? The last time I talked to him he was trying to wean off Wow, but obviously it hasn't work...

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