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my boyfriend of 4 and 1/2 years has been addicted to this since it came out. he and his a few of his friends are the same with it. it makes me sick. he doesnt ever talk to me anymore even though i am with him everyday. now he cares more about wow than me. he gets mad that i am mad at him for playing so much. he actually played for about 8 hours one day. it should be outlawed. i wish i could hack into the servers and destroy them so that it could end.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Tue, July 19, 2005 - 7:36 PMI totally feel for you! I'm Married ( 3 weeks) and he Still plays. It is a terrible addiction that i think I have decided can only be broken by pure lack of interest.. Whenever that may happen who knows. Hang in there. Try to talk to him about it. It really sucks though, Let me know if you come up with any clever ways to get rid of the problem. :) -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Tue, August 2, 2005 - 9:56 AMunplug the computer???????
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Sun, September 4, 2005 - 7:51 AMI am happy to have finally found people who share my hatred of the "game". My fionce has been playing it since November '04 and is completely addicted. Just last nite he was up until 4 or 5 in the morning when he promised he'd only be up until 2. We had plans for this morning and the rest of the day and he is sleeping on the couch right now! I know we're going to have an arguement about it later becauase right now i am just festering. He made all these promises last nite about what we were going to do today and just like i predicted i bet he won't do anything cause he's unmotivated and tired. This game sux people in i HATE IT, he is at level 60 in the game (which is the last level) so it better be over soon. i want to ruin and destroy the game forever!!!!
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Thu, September 8, 2005 - 9:23 PMI'm in the same kind of situation, not with a significant other, but with my friends who are being lost more and more every day to warcraft. Someone mentioned earlier that it can't be physically addictive, but it's definitely mentally addictive to a lot of people, your brain demanding the high and the escape you get from playing.
I've played a couple of times on friends' accounts and was never really that impressed, but a few people I know have gotten more and more absorbed since the game came out. They'll be excited to get out of school just so they can go home and play four or five hours, ignoring homework if they have to, and when they're at school at breaks and such, they can't talk about anything but warcraft. I keep thinking they'll get bored of it and reach some kind of limit, but it hasn't happened yet, even after level 60 and countless amounts of gold. The game just seems to keep expanding.
WoW has changed some of my friends, to the point where they're never satisfied hanging out, and instead either leave to go home and play or just talk about and complain about how they're missing a quest, becoming anxious or even depressed. It's a sad and scary situation, when I see people leaving a party to find a computer in a back room and log in, if just for a few minutes. On a given friday night, it's no surprise for someone to go home for the night early to play until the early hours of the morning, and less and less people seem to be on my side. Players recruit more of my friends every week, wanting people to play alongside with and share the experience, even though the experience is false.
I agree with the idea that people are drawn to it by the desire to control a world when they have no control in real life, when in fact the game causes them to miss out on life itself. They argue that theyr'e not missing anything on a friday night but sitting around with friends and hanging out, but to me this seems infinitely better than sitting in front of a computer, alone and absorbed. They argue that they're not alone at all, that there are thousands of "friends" to talk to across the "world", but to me this just seems pathetic. It scares me to see a bunch of my friends decide to just go home at six on a saturday night to play together, all in agreeance that it's the best thing to do, as long as the're having fun. It's hard to argue, though, because although I obviously wouldn't want to spend my life playing a computer game, but it's hard to say what else I should be doing besides socializing with my diminishing group of friends. With more and more people joining the Warcraft side, i feel like no one agrees with me when I try to show how sad it is, when people will sacrifice social life to become zombies for hours. Player find security in the game, and it's impossible to make them forsake that and go out into the world sometimes. A friend of mine stayed up for 86 hours once, playing, and was proud of the feat. That's just frightening and unhealthy, another aspect of the whole "drug" metaphor.
I know I want to accomplish something in life besides playing computer games, but I just can't really explain what. It scares the hell out of me to think that a simple computer game can have so much power, to absorb people for hours on end and invade every aspect of their lives to the point where they never stop thinking about it. If this game can get millions of people to abandon their friends and go sit in front of a screen all week, imagine what else can be done with technology. Society seems to be controlled more and more by the media already, so why let a stupid game take over what we still have? It's not that I don't like video games, I play plenty of Halo, but I've just always thought of them as either something to do with your friends by your side or as a last resort, to fill up time that couldn't be used for anything else. With WoW, it's different, its as if an addict's day is changed to fit in eating and sleeping around the game, rather than the other way around.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Sat, February 11, 2006 - 10:01 AMcry more noobs
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Tue, August 2, 2005 - 9:56 AMsome of the sad twatts at my place of work toss it off for over 16 hrs a day!!!!!
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Wed, August 3, 2005 - 4:25 PMHi,
I know exactly what you are talking about.
Let me tell you my WoW story: My (ex-)girlfriend likes to play games on the computer. Hey, no problem - so do I once in a while. Sometimes, when she really liked a game, she sat days on in in front of the PC. But we could always find some time to do something together.
Then there was Diablo 2. She liked it. A lot. No problem.
You must know, we work for the same company (IT), and there are a lot of people there who like to play. Especially Diablo 2. Except me. I didn't like the look and feel of that game.
So once WoW came out one by one every everybody got infected by this "virus". Lisa (my ex) promised "yeah, it looks interesting, but I don't want to get it. Not yet. Maybe later".
Yeah, right.
One day she called me from the office (in contradiction to her, I work in shifts) and said "I joined the darkside of the force. I ordered WoW at Amazon". "Fine" I said, "it's okay". I didn't know then, what was about to come.
She played this game more than any game before. If that wosn't bad enough: Both CEOs of the company play, about 80% of the employees. Even the cook plays WoW.
And you know what they say "if you can't beat them...". So I thought "why not?". Perhaps it would be fun to play WoW together. Why not show some interest in her hobby.
Yes, it's a fun game. No, I didn't become addicted. But now it starts:
After a while she breaks up with me. Yes, she found a player who is "better" than me. She fell in love (or something like that). The guy is from Munich (about 250 km from here - about a 150miles). They met for the first time a few weeks after she left me for him ("no, it's not just that I like him, I wanted to beak up anyway"). And, guess what: They didn't really hit it off. (Harhar!).
Nope, the never came together. She is still single, so am I. She may meet the other guy again, but she doesn't want him as a boyfriend any more.
But that's not the only reason I don't like WoW.
Yes, I still play that game once in a while. It's kind of fun too.
But when talking about it at the office it's ugly: I get to hear stuff like "you don't play often enough". "Why arent' you yet so far with your char?".
They talk about sometime for four(!) hours about:
- how good they themselves are, and how bad all other people.
- where they went on the map yesterday
- how much money they made when selling items
- how stupid other players are
- and so on, and so on.
Yes, WoW can be fun... if you remember that there is still a *real* *life* out there...
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Wed, August 3, 2005 - 7:57 PMBoy do i love this little tribe.. I also love how not to many people have a rebuttal against it.. I guess because anyone who cares is to busy still playing the game. *rolls eyes* i do however feel sorry for you though having to hear it at work as well.
My husband is kind of the same way though most of the people in his office play.. including his roommate. Maybe it's peer pressure why he plays? lol i think ill ask him. -
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Thu, January 5, 2006 - 6:10 PMI'm so excited to find that there are other people out there who hate this stupid game as much as I do!! It is the most pointless waste of time I've ever seen! I have watched my boyfriend play for up to 16 hours a day!!! And he doesn't understand why I feel like he ignores me now!!!
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Wed, August 17, 2005 - 7:43 AMI know how you feel. My boyfriend ,weve only been together 9 months but we dont spend more then a day apart. Sunday i went round his, he played from roughly 8.30-12ish and then monday morning 11-2ish, stopped for lunch and a chat ,I had to ask him 2o intresting quiestions that made him think, to keep him near me,but I could tell I was loosing and in the end simple told him to go(I could tell it was all he was thinking of when he wasnt watching tv and not really lstening to me anyway) well he went around 3.30 and apart from 10 minutes when I made him dinner, I didnt see him till gone 12 (8 and half hours later)at which point i faked being alseep because I didn't want to talk to him,I didnt want to argue with him but I felt so neglected.
We did talk in the end and he admitted that perhaps he did like the game a little to much.And that he'd change but we'll I lovve him but I won't get my hopes up.
I hate that game,its taking him away from me,how i can I be compition agianst something thats not real? If it was another girl,I could have a better chance,know what im against but a pc game?
My dad used to play pc games to avoid talking to my mum just before they divourced so I hate games that let you escape relaty so much it effects others.
But now its got my boyfriend, my best mate too, even her and her bf have arguments coz of the game. And all my friends at a club I go to play it minus a few,the others go on about it for hours.
I dont refus to play the game coz its mainstram,I wont play it coz of whats its doing to everyone around me,surprised there not all vampires the amount they go out now. Its sad and its making me feel depressed,so good to find somebody else who feels the same. -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Sun, August 21, 2005 - 1:55 PMco-de·pen·dent or co·de·pen·dent (kd-pndnt)
n.
One who is co-dependent or in a co-dependent relationship.
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This is directed at both sides of the argument, and at no particular one person or set of people who have posted here.. I don't know any of you, so don't take offense to something I said when I don't know anything about you personally. This is entirely based off of what I've seen and heard in my social circle.
I will agree that some people are codependent on something as silly as a computer game. I will also like to point out that if you really feel that a game is "stealing your significant other away" -- perhaps you should consider a few things like, "Is this really someone I want to be with?" or "Do we REALLY share the same interests or am I making this relationship sound a lot better than it is?"
The fact that you're going to blame a set of computer based instructions for the failure of your relationship is absolutely mind-boggling ridiculous. The connotation of "drug" in this thread suggests a sense of addiction. It's not a physical addiction, we can all agree on that. It's not a person's body telling them that they NEED to sit in front of a computer for hours on end, in fact, that's the LAST thing I think your body would request of you. However, I will grant that there's a level of social and mental attraction to the game. Perhaps you should seriously sit down and DISCUSS this attraction sans all the bull---- and formalities of relationship-life in this latest creation of social living and say "Look, this bothers me. We're either going to work this out, or I can't be here" -- if it IS in fact so bad that you can't be there.. A lot of people just say so because they can't admit that they are equally as codependent on the person playing the game as that said person is to the game itself.
However, threads and arguments like this are to be expected in today's living only because of the consumer attitude everyone has. "I like/want/need this, i must consume it." -- That goes for World of Warcraft, your Significant Other, any of the useless knick-knacks that sit on your desk at this very moment, and everything else that simply just has no purpose, but exists anyway just because you have a false-sense of NEED for something that you really don't.
Grow up. Talk to your mate, not a bunch of faceless people on a forum because you can't handle reality. Since this has become fairly one sided, let me revert back to the other side of the argument. Those who blow off their entire lives for the same set of fore-mentioned computer based instructions are the same people who seemingly don't know how to handle the reality that they exist in. Hence, they create one that they have a little bit more control over. Because of the consumerism attitude (especially in America), these people's imaginations have dwindled and they have gotten used to being fed their reality... hence why the MMO industry thrives so well. THESE people also need to grow up. Face reality.
Generally, everyone needs to quit whining to other people when it really doesn't matter one way or the other. Solve your problem or move on from it. If you want to call it an "addiction", fine.. but it's only in YOUR mind.. the one thing that you have full control and ownership of above all else.. so use it. Fix it. Or let games like World of Warcraft ruin your life too because your significant other is too weak to understand that his tactics in escapeism are ruining his life as well.
For the record, before the flames and arguments and hatred rises up in this thread. I also play WoW. I've been playing it for about a year now, and I'm only about half way through the game. I've taken a 4 month break just recently and now I play for about 6-12 hours over the weekend, as I have a normaly 40hr 9-5 type of job. It hasn't ruined my life. It hasn't made it better. I'm not codependent. Nor is anyone ELSE I play with. So take your dysfunction and label YOURSELVES with it... not the rest of the world based on a product that some company decided to throw together. -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Tue, September 6, 2005 - 9:38 PMBy the way: Addiction is an uncontrollable compulsion to repeat a behavior regardless of its negative consequences.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Wed, January 25, 2006 - 4:05 PMMy fiance plays this game quite often, but I would not claim he is actually addicted to the game. I would say he is captivated by it none the less. The problem with sitting down and discussing it with your significant other, is that I have found...
The other person in many situations gets very angry, because they cannot fathom why some simple game could upset their significant other so much. The people who play all the time can aruge that they would be watching tv, or doing some other mindless activity, so why not WoW? Many people who play simply cannot see how they behave during play time. You would almost need to record them being a complete mindless ass in order to prove it to them. After reading up on this subject, I have gathered that whoever you speak to tends to just get plain bent out of shape because this game is so important to them. I can see how it could potentially cause a rift between couples. The game is intense so often it consumes ALL of a persons attention leaving room for nothing else.
Groups like these let the upset partner blow of steam. Most likely it will not end a relationship, but it can be a hindrance so it's nice for people to feel that they are not alone-
I do feel that our society is almost breeding this neediness into the people for the sake of sales. I have felt for many years that technology such as TV's and computers can be the best and worst things for us.
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Fri, September 23, 2005 - 9:12 PMtoday my boyfriend passed up sex so he could play. they should make a support group for women who have this problem. or they shouldn't be allowed to play it if they're involved in a relationship.
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Sun, October 2, 2005 - 6:44 PMI HATE WoW. argh! my boyfriend has been too tired (from WoWing til the wee hours of the morning) to have sex in almost a week! glad to know i'm not the only one. -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Fri, October 14, 2005 - 5:12 AMOMG! This sounds so familiar!Finally some ppl who understand me! I've been with my boyfriend for nearly 4 years now. Our whole relationship suffers from this game and it drives me up the wall. Al he days is play 24 hrs a day. When I complain he tells me I am pathetic. When I want to see him and ask him if he's gonna play most of the times he says:probably and probably is the same as yes. I totally flip out then! 2nite I was supposed to see him and I told him I wasn't gonna come when he was going to play and he said: yes I HAVE TO! They even HAVE TO play when ppl tell them to play. It's just to pathetic for words. He has no social life atm. I am sooo annoyed! -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Fri, October 21, 2005 - 11:08 PMI share your feeling with the sence of relief to meet others who are suffering the same. My husband (a level 60 since June) is a total addict. Our relationship is really suffering. Like someone else said, I too thought I just had to wait it out until he hit 60 then I would get my husband back. He bought the game last december. Not counting days we are out of town and he does not have access to a computer, he has played every day but one since he bought this stupid game. He doesn't believe me but I make a mental note every day to see if he can go for the whole day without playing. He can't. If we are busy all day, then the second we walk through the door its drop everything and run to the computer. It is distroying my marriage! And like others have said he will even give up sex for it. You bet that's a confidence boost.
For the people who say we should just talk to our significant others... DUH don't you think we've tryed that! It is like a drug. Maybe not physical, but just as mentally addicting as gambling which is widely accepted as an addiction problem. The one talk I did have with him was to be honest. He used to say "I'll be off right away" So I tell friends we will be right over, or wait in the bedroom whatever, an hour later he was still playing. I too used to hear "probably" a lot. Now I hear "I'm going to be playing for a few more hours hun". At least now he is honest that he will be playing, and I will tell our friends no, go alone or just go to sleep.
My husband also uses the "I have to" line. Usually followed by "I promised this guy I would help him," or that he needs to reach a higher PVP rank that comes out the next day. Or the new one "It's a holiday in WOW so I get....... so I need to play all Saturday. Sorry hun, can't you find something else to do?" I HATE WOW!!! -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Mon, October 24, 2005 - 11:23 AMdo u know,i dont care what people say,it is an addition, my boyfriend lives on the damn game,hes more intrested in his charcters life then his own,he gets a guilty feeling when i leave because hes been sat playing it for hours and me ,ive been sat in his bedroom ,another room altogether whatching tv bored stiff. I even bribe him with meals out and stuff ,he says yes and then never happens. When someone cant stop playing (like the other night 4am doing a hord) its stupid and I hate the gamwe. It is dumb that game acan come between to people,i do love him ,for gods sake i want to marry him in tokyo but he needs to get some sort of control before its too late. I can totally understand whare every single one of these people are comming from. -
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Mon, October 24, 2005 - 1:32 PMI totally understand how you feel! Mine is the same. But I don't bother to see him when I know he will be playing all nite. I just tell him I have better things to do than to be annoyed by him and his stupid wow stuff, and be threated as if I'm not there. And somehow it starts to work. Whenever I get there he quits playing(HE EVEN TURNS HIS PC OFF!!!). I wonder if he stays this way but I doubt it coz I've been down this road before!
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Fri, October 28, 2005 - 3:30 PMI am so glad I am not alone, my boyfriend of 10 years is a level 60 and also has other characters at other levels. He has been playing for around 5 months and has clocked up 48 days playing time within this time, there is a counter thing that tells you. I am now sat on a friday night on my own (after I voiced my upset to the fact that he was supposed to spen some time with me and once again went up to play straight after dinner. I was then told he was busy doing something now, so that will be it until around 4am, my usual weekend routine, on my own)looking on the net for people in the same situation, I was beginning to think I was the one with the problem but thanks to all you guys I now know I am not. I am beginning to feel so personally insulted by his lack of interest for me and the fact that his guild and quests always take priority. He has always played PC games. A few years ago he became obsessed with playing delta force online, it absorbed every waking minute he was not at work, it turned him into someone I did not want to be with. He came out the other side of it and saw he had been awful, but once WOW came into the picture I knew it would be a downward spiral. I would not say that he is addicted to the game but his whole self is absorbed by it. He has a stressful job and I know he likes to use the game to escape but it has now gone beyond a joke. He doesn't come to bed until around 2am on weeknights and 4-5am on weekends, needless to say I am in bed along time before this or I cannot functiona t work the next day. I think his long sessions on WOW are afecting him at work but he would not admit to this.
I have tried talking calming to him about how all this is making me feel time and time again but it always ends in an argument with me feeling like I'm the one in the wrong for feeling this way.
I have had enough of taking second place to a computer game, he would not tolerate it if the roles were reversed, what can I do to make him see that it is killing our relationship. I do not think he will get bored with the game, I don't think any of them will do. It is not that I am against computer games, what I am against is the way he is playing it. If it were a couple of hours every now and then it would not be so bad, but it is 8 hours a day at the minimum and I get about 15 minutes of his time, I might as wel not be here!
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Sat, October 29, 2005 - 8:40 AMNice to see there are still people left who have not been taken by this addiction. I wont bother repeating what has already been said. I hate it like the rest of you do, and if anyone here feel's like taking a trip to Blizard HQ (the dealers of this drug)..and trashing the servers and beating up the designers of the game..count me in! I imagine them to be scrawny nerd types who have never seen the light of day so it wont take much to rough them up a bit. -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Fri, November 4, 2005 - 10:25 AMi have felt like this many many times. but i know it won't help.
you see, there will always be something else. those of you who have partners who are obsessed with this game, there is something deeper going on within them than the game.
i am sure most of them have spent many hours obsessed with other activities, mabey they use to stay up all weekend playing d&d, or tabletop warhammer, or friggin' solitaire, i don't know. the bottom line is it is escapism. they are most likely depressed, unhappy with their lives, and change is difficult. far more difficult than levelling up or winning a game. so they enter another world. the addiction to wow is particularly bad because blizzard did a very good job of coming up with an attractive, absorbing world with almost endless things to do and accomplish (with others, so this touches on another subject, dysfunctional social interaction).
i highly encourage you all to try a different approach. try not to get upset or angry. try to look at their behavior as more of an illness. gently suggest that they may be experiencing some depression and perhaps they could try to change that. i am not a big proponent of drigs but talk therapy, vitamins, and st. john's wort are all good approaches. and above all, lead by example. focus on yourself and accomplishing your own goals. if your partner notices and follows suit, awesome. if not, it may be time to rething whether this person is for you.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Sat, November 5, 2005 - 7:22 PMThis is Mich's husband, I'm here to say that the game is extremely addicting, and besides my wife threatening marriage counselling, the only thing that helped me break the addiction (I still play from time to time, but a lot less) is that I started realizing that eventually I'd stop playing the game and I knew that the real life things around me were being neglected, including my marriage. The thought of losing any more time to something that wasn't real helped me to break free. Now I have time to work on my Jeep, fix things around the house, get enough sleep so I can focus on work and not loose my job. Go for walks with my wife and hopefully loose some of the weight I've been putting on just sitting on my ass.
I've decided to prevent myself from ever becoming addicted to a game again, I won't play any more games where I feel like I spend time developing my character. After all, there's a real life character (me) that always needs improvement.
I guess if I were to give advice as far as what to tell the addict in your life, I'd suggest showing them the things they're missing in a way that isn't threatening. Have them do the /played in game to display the hours they have wasted playing, and perhaps they will realize all the things they could have done with that time. Hopefully they will see how insignificant the game is compared to friends, family, their job. If nothing seems to work, pray and ask for help from those around you. Good luck. -
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Sat, November 5, 2005 - 7:36 PMMy husband wrote above, and as you can see I wrote a while ago on here how WOW was distroying my marriage. I just wanted to let all of you know what I did that seems to have helped. First like my husband said I did tell him if his playing did not degress significantly I would be going to marriage counselling with or without him. I used a technique we learned in our pre-marriage counselling, which was to write down how I felt. I wrote a huge letter, using "I" words. "I can't take it any more, I feel....." rather than "You" words "You are distroying our marriage, you need to control yourself..." I wrote it in a big letter, then when he had taken a break from WOW for supper I gave it to him and left a pad of paper and a pen there and told him to write me back and I left him alone. Then I read his response and we spent a couple hours talking about it, and how much more he would have to play to get to a better rank. I had to really bite my tounge and swallow my frustration/anger as he worked through things that were so important for him like getting to a higher rank, but seemed so unimportant to me. I used silence a lot. Just sitting letting him think through it on his own so it was his decision not me telling him what to do. So far it has helped. It has been about 2 weeks, we will see if he can stick to it. -
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Sat, November 19, 2005 - 9:39 AMI hope it gets beter for you! if only mine would get to the point to admit he's addicted. But he denies it.. SIGH -
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Sat, January 7, 2006 - 10:33 PMBest of luck to you. My husband has made a new character, and is starting to play a lot right now. I fear it soon will be like it used to. He says there is a new expansion pack coming out in the spring that he is so pumped about. My hope is in the fact that he wants an X box really bad. I told him if he gets rid of WOW then he could get an X box. (money's tight) He is thinking about it. At least an X-box can be paused when the phone rings, or supper is ready. But I am sure eventually he would get X-box live and be in the same situation anyways. Hey at least it's not WOW! -
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Sat, January 7, 2006 - 11:40 PMi put off this game for a year cause i swore i'd never play a MMO and just told myself my PC couldnt meet the requirements. then my asshole friend gave me a trial disk and said my PC could handle it. jesus fuck i hate that guy.
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Mon, January 9, 2006 - 4:58 PMMy fiance made me a character so I could play. I give him crap about it, because while I work full time, go to school full time, and still find time to go to the gym, or some nights take the dog for a long walk. I played for over an hour and was not at all excited, yes I realize the game progresses, but I cannot picture myself playing that game AT ALL. I realize it may be fun to some people, but my fiance works on computers all day at work. I would not say that he is addicted, but it upsets me so much when I see him do the most smiling or interacting with a stupid machine. I would think he would love a break from a computer, and have offered to add him onto my gym membership (he has a skinny build) but he refuses or says "maybe later". He seems to be getting worse and used to talk about the game all the time until I seriously showed signs of irritation and it started causing arguments. I had to chip in money to buy some of the Christmas presents for his family, but he sure has money to pay for the WoW. He thinks I am completely insane in disliking the game and that it is unwarranted. I have never demanded once that he quit playing, I just point out all the actual productive things he could be doing.
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Thu, January 26, 2006 - 10:33 AMI am right there with you. My fiance spends every night playing. He gets home from work and stays on it until he goes to bed, so at least five hours a night. And on the weekends anywhere from 12 plus hours. I'll get mad and then he'll "fit" in an hour or two with me to keep me quiet. I HATE WOW!
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Fri, January 27, 2006 - 5:21 PMOk i am amandas fiance and i do play the game alot i wouldnt call it a addiction but i just get so into it and beleive me i do feel bad for not spending as much time with her as i should and im trying to change that i play for hours all the time -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Mon, January 30, 2006 - 6:42 PMOne thing I don’t get with wow is why people get so addicted to this retarded game all you do is punch a couple keys to slay monsters to level up and once you hit 60 you aren’t really achieving much seeing how most people are at that level anyway, so there is really no skill in the game. I asked my friend the same question asking what was the point now that he is level 60? He plays it 15 hrs a day so I’m concerned about him, and his responds was that he was using it like messenger, but I doubt his conversation on very stimulating most of it is game talk like battling monsters and what gear they have.
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Sat, February 11, 2006 - 10:01 AMCRY MORE NOOBS
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Thu, March 9, 2006 - 8:45 PMMy fiancee of two years just called off our relationship because "She was tired of the negitive crap in our relationship."
I admit there was some crap in our relationship but all relationships come with crap. She stated that she wanted to be free to do what she wanted without feeling like she was being big brothered. I was like what the hell! You can do what ever you want, i bought the damn game for her at X-mas and she spent every night until 8 in the morning playing. I never got to see her anymore, so I started asking if she could come to bed at a reasonable time. She said she would and then never did. Finially I asked if she was not coming to bed because she was avoiding me or because she was addicted. She never liked that. A few days later I was staying with my sister and now a month later I am in a new apartment sleeping on the floor because I have nothing. She took two weeks off work while she was "thinking about it" and all she did was play warcraft! She does nothing but work and play warcraft then she sleeps for a few hours and the cycle continues.
Our relationship was not the best but it was pretty awesome. But she hasn't thought about it or what she was giving up because she is so caught up in that god aweful game. I have played it and its ok but hell I can get up from it! I'm suprised she doesn't have a bed pan. One day this game will be gone hopefully and she will wonder what happened to her great life.
Well folks that is my story.
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Tue, November 7, 2006 - 4:04 PMSeriously, Matthew is right, what I think is pathetic is a bunch of people who dont know each other in real life, (just like WoW) gather here and have a bitch and cry about a game. WoW was made for a reason, something to do apart from real life stuff that doesnt interest people, I for one have no interest in going out and getting wasted, at least in WoW you have control, getting pissed though, you could get bashed, thank god these people arent taking coke or heroin you fucking sooks!! Youd rather that, huh!!??
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Tue, November 7, 2006 - 9:42 PMI have nothing against the game, myself - I've played it, it was quite a good time.
but it doesnt matter the activity, if you're doing it almost 24/7, and you cant stop... its a problem.
And you're right... its not the game thats the problem, its the people we're involved with. But there's no need to be so defensive, insensitive and lets face it.. bit of a jackass... so a bunch of us get together and talk about our shared experiences as a result of our loved one's addiction to a game. Whats wrong with that? THere are support groups for those who's loved ones are addicted to gambling, alcohol, drugs... are those just a bunch of idiot emos getting together to whine about their lives being ruined by an innanimate object/service/substance?
I think its pathetic that you actually searched this out just to flame us. Go back to WoW where you can pvp and raid to the top of the server food chain instead of insulting people who are obviously hurting, you insensitive prick.
thank-you.
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Thu, November 16, 2006 - 5:51 PMMy son started playing WOW about a year ago. He just recently turned 18. He got a job and started making his own money and in the last few weeks, he has spent hundreds of dollars buying a pellet gun, and musket, a paintball gun, and spent $500. on ebay buying a WOW leveled up character. He has gotten himself in so much debt that he borrowed almost $1000 from a loan shark to pay for these things. He's a senior in h.s., and is showing less and less concern for his education. All he wants to do is play WOW. He even called off work yesterday to play WOW. What's really scarey is that he seems to be bringing it more and more into his real life. We were driving down the freeway today when he saw a gasoline truck. He said, "wouldn't it be funny if someone shot the side of that truck and it blew up?" Also, I overheard him tell a friend that his big goal in life now is to shoot a bear. I want to ban WOW from my house, but whenever I do take it away from him, he gets very angry. And, usually he just goes to bed. We are a Christian family, and I see him getting farther and farther away from his fate. I don't know a whole lot about the game, but it sure seems like there are many aspects of 'evil' involved. I worry that this constant feeding of his mind is having some drastic personality (and spiritual) affects. Maybe this is one more way for 'you know who' (sorry, I do not even like to write the word) to try to snatch our kids. Any thoughts are welcomed. -
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Fri, November 17, 2006 - 1:20 AMHi Debbie. ^_^ I may not be who you want to hear from, but I'd like to give my own opinions, if I may?
Your son's spending habits sound a bit like mine, when I was that age and got my first job. Money in hand, or in the bank, always seemed to be worth a lot more than it really was, especially whenever checks or cards are involved. The purchases of the guns I can't comment on -- it may just be an interest of his that he's finally able to get into -- and I can't say I'm thrilled to hear that your son is participating in the downfall of the game's online economy, but I also can't say that buying a character is too abnormal. It sounds very much like he got rather badly ripped off, though; but that's neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things.
If he's borrowed money from a loan shark, then you definitely need to step in and perhaps contact the authorities. This is not a safe activity, and if you can do something, please, by all means, do it.
As for the comment about blowing up a truck -- that is actually fairly normal teenage banter. The chances of him picking up that specific idea from WoW is very, very slim. Explosives do exist in the game, but not in such a fashion. There is no gasoline, there are no gasoline trucks. There aren't even cars, but I digress. He's more likely to have picked that up from watching an action movie, or from seeing a tv show, than WoW.
As for the want to shoot a bear? This also seems like normal teenage male behaviour. Hunting is a large part of many people's lives, and this could have simply come from hearing a friend at school or work mentioning their own big-game hunting. There are bears in WoW, and some quests do involve killing them -- namely, bears that are diseased, bears that need to be killed in order to stop the sickness from spreading to healthy bears. I personally wouldn't see this as anything negative from WoW -- if anything, WoW is describing a side of conservation that people rarely consider, the one that means controlling outbreaks of illness for the betterment of the species.
You are certainly within your rights to ban WoW, but please consider that your son is now an adult. While he is in your home he is subject to your rules, but at this point it is unfair of you to attempt to restrict him too very much. When you take WoW away, it's very much like punishing a child for something that they don't realize they've done wrong, from what I'm seeing. His job may not be very important to him, because he lives with and is supported by his parents -- a job is a side project, and probably not of much interest other than a source of cash and a place where he might get to hang out with friends from school.
I respect your Christian beliefs, but please do not judge the game as evil. It is simply a game, nothing more, nothing less. It is not teaching witchcraft, it is not condemning souls. I highly doubt the Christian devil would be interested in getting at children through such a method -- it's simply impractical. Parents can too easily regulate their child's gameplay, and it isn't a pervasive influence. If a parent wished, they could very easily block almost all contact with the game and its players from their child, but again I digress.
My suggestion would be to try talking to your son in a neutral place, in a neutral tone. Ask what it is about WoW that interests him. Don't press him, don't accuse him, and please try to stay calm. I know you're worried for him, and that is an amazing thing. So many parents hardly notice their children, let alone care so deeply and profoundly and spiritually for them. I'm certain your son, once the "honeymoon" phase of the game has worn off, will move on to other interests. -
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Fri, November 17, 2006 - 4:55 AMThank you for your post. I will seriously take all into consideration. -
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Fri, November 17, 2006 - 8:52 AMI agree with Lupa the much of your son's behavior is found in many others his age. Debt problems aer a huge problem, so much so that my father encouraged me to never get a credit card and I didn't wutill I was about 24. I wathced many of my friends get into lots of debt becuase they just don't know better. Stepping into adulthood is challenging. Money is a huge hurdle to undrestand. Talk with your son about money. Some of my friends prmblems with debt turned into gambling problems ( I live in Reno)
As difficult as it may be try to find other constructive activities for your son. You mentioned his interest and purchase of guns. Is he the only one in the family with this interest? If so I suggest enrolling him in a hunters safety course so he learns how to handle guns and appropriate use of them. If he baught a paintball gun look into arenas and other safe places to operate them. If not he will of course want to shoot them, but without a proper location what is he supposed to shoot?
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Sat, November 25, 2006 - 9:55 PMTo all you bitches complaining about your spouse, boyfriend, fiance, whatever...playing WoW instead of paying attention to you.....have you ever stopped to think that you suck so badly that your loved one cares about a computer game more than you? You're throwing fuel on the fire by continuing to bitch. He probably plays it so much to attempt an escape from his reality of being attached to an ugly, fat-ass nag like yourself. I'd do the same thing! Shut the hell up and quit conforming to the stereotype of a woman that probably you claim to not be. A BITCH! It's a goddamn game for Christ's sake! Who cares if he plays it hours upon hours on end? It's 2006 almost 07 and technology is a part of our times. So drag your floppy ass away from that antique, wooden butter churner and stop whining. And to any males complaining about the same thing....you're a pansy, and your girlfriend believes so too. -
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Sat, November 25, 2006 - 10:09 PMWoah.
Your trolling is not in any way warranted here. Go play somewhere else. -
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Mon, November 27, 2006 - 3:18 PMComing from a person who was very addicted to the game and who know doesn't play (my wife could relate to all your storys im sure). the angry and obnocious answers that some of the wow players are posting here are very tipical of truly addicted gamers. they might as well wear a sandwitch sign that says im addicted to wow and have no soul with which to feel
and p.s. as a person who hurt his wife terribly by ignoring her for wow i'd like to apologize on behalf of all the men who have ignored thier wife/girlfriends to play the game, its not your fault and its definately not because you are not interesting or worthwhile as a person.
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Mon, December 4, 2006 - 6:35 PMI HATE WOW! ok seriously since my friends have gotten it they haven't stopped playing it. During class my friend andrew will talk about it like i care and he keeps going on and on about it. I don't understand what he's saying. Now that their face is glued to the computer and they live the WOW life i can't talk to them or hang out with them. Everytime my friend kelly and i call them they have an excuse saying oh im sick i cant hang out or they are like im doing a Rade... ok i don't care if you're going to go to a fake world to kill fake things.. it's stupid. their whole life is based around the game. At lunch andrew and his girlfriend gabby talk about WOW non stop and keep saying they wish they had a lap top to play it on at school. Over the summer we didn't hang out at all because they were playing WOW.. so i went off and did band camp for 3 weeks. They get all pissed when im not around because im out doing something and i don't invite them. I cant invite them because i know if i do they'll be like sorry im doing a butt hole egg hunt or whatever. Also i dont want them around my other friends talking about WOW. It's pathetic. Yeah games are fun but come on when you wake up everyday at 3AM just to play WOW before school you have problems. Even with projects, I'd go to my friends house to work on and he'd BS it and be say i need to check my stats on WOW to see how much gold i can sell this for. I'm really sure the company that made this game doesn't care how much of a brain vacuum it is. I miss the old times i used to have with my friends hanging out and crap. It's really bothering my friend kelly and me. I mean even gabby's dad put a block on the computer so she cant play the game for a long period of time with out it turning off. This game is stupid. It takes your friends away. Im ready to smash the damn computers and be like this bullshit. I'm glad im not the only one who has had these problems. Im ready to send the site www.olganon.org/ aka online gamers anonymous.. it's like AA but for game whores. -
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Mon, December 4, 2006 - 6:50 PMAre you jealous because you aren't included in what they're doing? Have you tried playing the game with them? Have you spoken with a counsellor at your school? Are you really so ready to give up on your friends because of a game that you think the answer lies in coming here and spewing venom about them, and their preferred hobby, behind their backs? -
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Mon, December 4, 2006 - 7:17 PMWell, thanks to A Current Affair and WoW protestors, my parents has been sucked in media bullshit and put me on a WoW rehab or some crap because all I wanted to do in my spare time is play that fucking game that I enjoy because its a great escape from the thing we call Real Life. You take ones escape away, where will he go? Get addicted to something else thats where. Well if my parents dont appreciate my WoW addiction, maybe being a pothead is what they want. Alrighty starting from now Im going to spend my bank savings on getting high. Parents have never understood their kids in this digital age, parents will never understand their kids in this age because they never had all this. I tried to be fair, never went out and caused trouble or had any drug habits, but noo, WoW is "destroying my life".
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Mon, December 4, 2006 - 10:42 PMYou're mad now, but try to cool off. They're worried about you, and if you can't be reasonable with them, you'll only fan the flames that the media has set burning in their minds.
And don't do something illegal -- you won't get back at them, you'll simply confirm to them that you're maladjusted and need help.
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Mon, December 4, 2006 - 8:45 PMNo im not jealous that im not included.. i dont want to be included into a pointless game that takes over someones life. Also.. im not giving up on my friends stupid... they are the ones giving up on me. they are ones that went out and spent 50 bucks to get their brain sucked in to a game world. Also WOW is not a hobby, it's a game... so basically you're saying everytime someone plays a game it's a hobby? Also i haven't been talking behind their back..i have talked to them about it i just felt like posting this because im not the only one obviously that has lost friends to a stupid game. -
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Mon, December 4, 2006 - 10:45 PMA game can't be a hobby? I roleplay, and that's a game, and it is considered a hobby.
Some folks play jigsaw puzzles as a hobby. Others play solitaire, or even poker with pennies. Those are games and hobbies.
Please calm down a little, and think this through a bit. Have you tried the game? Do you say it's pointless because you've played it for a few hours and didn't like it; or only because you didn't understand what your friends were talking about and as such felt left out?
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Tue, December 5, 2006 - 9:29 AMChris there is always something that young people grab ahold of as an escape. When I was in highschool it was Magic the gathering and Pogs, who remembers pogs? Worse than a videogame these kids would fight and steal pogs and cards. They would spend all their money on buying cards, playing the game or studying the game. But eventually they became interested in something else.
An addiction fills a void. What would you do with your friends before they found WOW? Just hang out? Do you have any hobbies? Unless you fill the void with something else they will find something to put there. Chris if you take up a hobby that you can do with your friends, maybee they'll do it with you. If you just tell them to stop why would they? Just to hang out? I wouldn't. Maybe you already have a hobby, tell us. If not try one.
Paintball, hiking, skiing, juggling, skateboarding, rockclimbing, frisbie golf, mountain biking, restore a car together, build a complicated model plane together. Pick a hobby that requires a small gorup but can be done alone if you like. Big team sports like football, soccer and baseball require too big a team and are hard to put togehter.
My brother has 50 days worth of playing his character in WOW, but that's over a year and a half. He has most of the cool gear and his guild is running Naxxramus, the toughest dungeon in the game. But he has a schedule. He and I work out two days a week, we also run a fire performance troup and teach classes and practice that art. We also invent new tools for fire arts. Because he has other things to do he does them. If there wasn't anything there, he would play wow all the time because it's more interesting than watching TV.
I hope this helps Chris. Yourface, quit being a whiner and grow up. If you find something constructive to do and offer to work out a game schedue with your parents, they will see it as a mature step and will work with you.
Best of luck to the both of you
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Tue, December 5, 2006 - 3:13 PMWell it will probably be an ongoing topic that could even out last the game as the problems discussed are ongoing and evolving every day with WoW gamers and their real life social sturctures. I'm sure there are many unique circumstances due to players personalitys and who they are affecting (girl/boyfriends, married spouces, other family members and just friends in general)by playing the game.
I am (was) married and both myself and my wife had been playing WoW for a few years and it hasn't been all bad, we have met other couples ingame and have made some seemingly good internet friendships which isn't all that bad since we are very anti-social in person and have no real life friendships. This game has given us a bit of a social atmosphere we never had before and I do see that as a good thing. Its to bad the story doesn't end there.
I work very long hours monday to friday and also work every second saturday. I average about 12 hours per day so that in itself has been able to keep me from becoming overly addicted (in my oppinion anyway). My wife however does not leave the house unless it is VERY important. We got involved with this game because she wanted to play it as it was the biggest game she could find. I wanted to play it merely because I had been playing all of the warcraft series before and wanted to see how advanced they have become. Just with these different reasons alone I should have seen how we would be affected differently. Little did I know..
This game has become the single most important thing to her and she cannot be taken from it to participate in any other activity unless in very limited quanity. It is also really sad because we also have two children together and although one is still a baby the other is now 4 and has a slew of her own video games to keep herself occupied while mommy is gaming. She was becoming overwhelmed between raising the kids, home schooling herself and gaming so she dropped school. I supose it shows the level of importance.
In the end my only relationship with her was online but due to the fact that I worked much more than I ever played she outgrew me ingame. there is much longterm commitment to outplaying the endgame senarios every week as they reset and it takes much cordination and dedication. I could not get involved (even though yes I would have liked to) to that level of gameplay not only because of work but because I felt it taking away from my family. For the last few months I spent most of my gameplaying being alone and wondering why I was even playing anymore and given the chance to spend time with me and show that this relationship really ment so much she just kept on raiding.
One day I came home from work and everyone was sleeping. I decided to play abit in the peaceful solitude until they awoke and see what happens. Well my wife woke up first and logged on, started chating with her fellow raiders and became commited to a 3 hour raid, knowing full well that I was only waiting to do something with her. I stressed to her severly that it was not a good idea and if we are going to play we should aleast play together until the kids wake up. I was told I could wait until after she was done raiding to discuss any problems I had.
Ups and downs aside I knew what I had to do. I had to delete the caracters I built up for the past two years and ween myself from this addiction. I was not taken serious with how I felt this game was ruining our relationship until it was validated that I was really seperating myself from the game. Aparently I seperated myself from the relationship with that move and we were now in a catch 22 situation. I could not stay with her and let her play as it only made me resent both of them and she could not stay with me and not play without holding the same resentment. She has said she is going to stop playing but it hasn't happened yet and I don't believe it will.
I read posts of boyfriends turning down sex for this game for a week or so, the excuses I got for any kind of advances I made sexual or not (yes, sometimes real men would just like to cuddle on the couch with their signifigant other to get that happy togetherness feeling)were met with either the children were up or the game was on, usually it was both..
My advice to anyone that is just in the begining of a relationship with a WoW gamer is just walk away while you can. There are plenty other people out there and if WoW is not what you want to rule your life then just let them go. If you do not have children yet or are not married, the faster you go the better off you will be. If they understand the consequences of their actions they may come for you if not the will just keep feeding the addiction. I wouldn't ever hold my breath though. -
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Tue, December 5, 2006 - 3:39 PMThank you for sharing that Roy. I have a few questions. Why doesn't she work? Is she willing to compromise? Have you tried to schedule time to do something? I understand that there are schedules with the game, but there is also downtime.
All marrages have problems. Your happens to involve a game. I won't get into details about my relationship problems but I will tell you that my wife has been "unavailable" because of school. Luckally she's done on the 18th and we'll get our lives back. :)
The hardest thing to do is to talk about it with a level head. A good exercies is to talk to each other about how you each feel. The tricky part is to not say "you". For example, "I fell alone and left out." Instead of "You need to stop plating and pay attention to me" I hope that makes sence. I have had the really hard conversations with my wife and I actually got answers that made me feel better and gave me hope.
Roy, you sound like your giving up. My bet is that you havn't really discussed how you feel with your wife. Instead, your claming up, getting depressed and distant. Guess what that makes your wife do. She's upset that your upset and escapes into the game.
Marrage is work, on both sides. That fact needs to be clear. You also need to fight for your relationship. Over half of all marrages end in devorce, most within the first 3 years. (if memory serves me right don't quote me on that) You felt she was worth spending the rest of your life with when you married her, but you both have probably changed and you need to meet eye to eye again.
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Tue, December 5, 2006 - 4:54 PMWell Cody, thanks for your perceptions.
I will answer your questions first before I devulge even more detail of my senario.
1) Why doesn't she work? Well the is really a vast plethore of answers to this question. First and formost though she was staying at home for the children. The 4 year old does have a genetic disorder and does have special needs and well the other is only 10 months now. So daycare is impractical as children under 18 months cost more as well as any special needs. She had intentions of homeschooling as she has no formal highschool and did want to eventually go to university. But between the gametime and childrearing school got dropped as it could not give her the emotional gatitude she needed after her stressful days. Well that whet she tells me anyway. She aslo was a tattoo artist for a number of years and is pretty covered in ink that hinders jobs outside of the industry. She did try it in the begining but working as a tattoo artist and childrearing don't go well together.
2) Is she willing to compromise? She actually did set up a compromise that I begrudgingly agreed to as it meant she would be raiding 3 days a week as oppossed to 6 it was the best she could do for me. The real problem was that almost all raiding was started just before or around the time I got home from work enabling her to drop everything and anything to me (including making dinner) and go for hours on end. Now my real problem is that I get up at 4am and get home from work at 6pm so thats a long day and the last thing I am interested in is how well Strat, Scolo, UBRS, DM, BRD or whatever went all day because it doesn't stop there, she needs her daily raid fix and if she doesn't get it then I have to live with the repercussions. I only get a few hours before I have to get some sleep with absolutly no control over anything that happens with my children. Actually because of her gaming cycle they are now all getting up at 3 or 4 in the afternoon and going to bed after I got to work in the morning.
I know there is no such thing as a perfect marrage and that the problems involved in mine do go much deeper that just from this game. I have tried to talk to her rationally and calmly with a level head but her answer has always been the some... its all just in my head... -
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Wed, December 6, 2006 - 10:38 AMRoy thank you for the informed responce. It does make sence for her to be a stay at home mom, but apparently she is neglecting those duties as well. I'm hesitant to say that documenting proof of your problems may help you defend your issues and thwarting her "it's al in your head" statement. If talking it out doesn't work try a marrage counsoler. If anything they act as a neurtal party and referee.
I would encourage you to try the compromise. In order to make it work you need to fully support her on those three days she has scheduled raids while your home. Bring home dinner or cook something easy. That way on the other 4 days a week she will more redily and guilt free turn off the computer and spend time with you. You need to make the compromise work as well. I'd also suggest on those three days listening to her discuss the game to you without getting upset. The balance is that on the other 4 days she talks about something else.
I understand how you cannot see what she's all excited about, it's only a game. But to her it's the most exciting thing to happen to her that day and she wants to share the excitement with you. You can compare it to the similar conflict in the 50's when the working husband would come home and not ask the hosewife how her day was. He didn't ask because he didn't care, after all what did she do? clean the house, so what. But from her perspective she wanted to share and was upset that he didn't care. Either way they disconnected. My wife hates it when I talk about the game. I'm excited about something and she's scowling. But on the other hand she'll talk my ear off about her classmate getting drunk before a presentation, which I really don't care about, but she does, so I pay attention and participate in the conversation. Luckally I have much more to talk about than the game, but I've seen that scoul that has probably come across your face and it doesn't help the situation at all.
The point I'm trying to make is accentuate the positive. If she wants to talk about something engage in the conversation no matter what it's about. If life was fair she would do the same for you when you talk about something that happoned at work. If you like share this tribe with her. I have learned quite a bit bu reading other peoples stories and it has helped put things in perspective.
Hang in there and good luck.
Cody
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Tue, March 6, 2007 - 8:17 AMi just feel like telling my story too because not to many people understand it.
I have a guy who i love and live with and have been dating for almost two years now.
He was playing final fantasy when we first started going out. The key term here is actually GOING OUT.
I never liked it toooooo much but i accepted my problems with it considering we still did have great times together.
He got a new job at a gaming store and that was great for him cause that's what he always loved.
Then, well, everyone at work played WoW.
He quit FF and that time was great.
There were still the message boards he checks 28745 times for atleast an hour but what evs right?
WoW started out harmless.
The graphics sucked compared to FF and it was more childish compared as well.
He's an addicted.
I'm reading these posts and wanting to cry because it looks like there is no hope.
Now that there is a level 70 cap I have to wait till then to see if he changes.
All I do it wait
I wait for holidays to go out or do something special
I wait for him to be done so we can go get dinner or so he can pick me up
I wait weeks and months for any type of contacts like kissing for more then 1 minute or when he feels like a blow job (oooOOOooo)...sex hasn't happened sinnnnce November? what's the point of spending 12 on the pill when he might or might not what so fucking ever want to touch me.
I love him
He's great and a funny guy when we go out.
I can't wait for my birthday
Valentines day...he spent time with me
and then played WoW later that day
He would kill me if he found out if i has sabotaged the internet
I needed to rant cause he hated hearing my cry over it
I'm just to clingy apparently
But when you sleep next to someone every night and they barely want to kiss you because your head blocks the screen when he's flying that STUPID dragon which requires NO NEED TO SEE WHAT SO EVER...
you may not read this
but i needed to rant
time for a cigarette because i am not a happy girl after right this all down
and this is probably only 1/4 of my plight.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Tue, March 6, 2007 - 3:25 PMIf a video game is more important to him than you, if he pays attention to you only for his own gratification, if you fear that he'd actually hurt you for interrupting his gameplay... Have you considered leaving him? For your own well being?
I hope things get better for you, but I don't think he's worth it. If you can't accept his hobbies in a casual sense (no, snarking about FF or forum checking is not acceptance; I'm sorry. At best it's 'putting up' with something.), and he certainly seems uninterested in you; what's the point in staying?
He's not the only great and funny guy out there, and most of the others will actually be genuine about it, and spend time with you to boot!
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Sun, March 11, 2007 - 10:33 PMI feel all of you on this one! In an earlier post I was explaining how this game has made 2 of the guys in my house quite lazy!
I mean a game is ok as long as you take care of your responsibilities, my 2 roomates spend all their time on this game and don't do anything else and that means finding a job to help with rent. 1 of the younger 2 spent 80 bucks the other day to put it on the PC he got for Christmas. He used all the income tax money he made on this d***n game and cigarettes and out of about 200 bucks he gave 25 to help out. 25 bucks does not even pay for the internet connection that he has.
The other roomate helps out more than him but again it's very spaced out. He gets a SSI check so he can spend it on the game. He was the one who got the 1st one hooked. At least this guy went and bought some groceries last month!
Now most of you might think "Why are they still there if they don't pay rent" well to answer that they are related to the homeowner by marriage! He's not gonna just put them out and they both know it. My wife and I both want to get out of this situation, but financially we are better here. I just wish we would get help around the house. I mean these guys b***h when they are asked to take the trash out. And the only time you see them is when they need or want something or as my friend says "Hears the food bell". I will be glad when they get over the game because from what I was told tonight they are gonna have to start paying for their own internet connection which is about 50 bucks. Gonna be kinda hard when neither one of them work right???
We have 2 internet connections right now cause when they would play WoW all the bandwidth would go to that and we wouldn't be able to surf and when we did the one roomate would raise h**l that he lost his connection. One time we bummed the router to clean and he went ballistic about it cause it came unplugged. Cleaning Bad huh!!!!
I feel if you are not gonna do your part then you should be treated like any other child and have your toy taken away right ? I mean one roomate broke it off with his GF because she started nagging him to work and not play so much. God forbid any money coming in right ?
Play the game, have fun, don't let bills get behind or lose relationships because of it. Find a way to be responsible and play the game too. Oh and there is totally no way I'm giving up sex for a game no friggin way. If there is guy who wil not stop playing this game to have a good time kick his a** to the curb cause a woman's body is way better then a keyboard.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Sun, March 11, 2007 - 11:19 PM"Play the game, have fun, don't let bills get behind or lose relationships because of it. Find a way to be responsible and play the game too. Oh and there is totally no way I'm giving up sex for a game no friggin way. If there is guy who wil not stop playing this game to have a good time kick his a** to the curb cause a woman's body is way better then a keyboard. "
Cue my applause. :3
I agree 110%. A game is a game, nothing more -- it should never be the focus of so much attention and energy.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Tue, March 27, 2007 - 4:58 PMI really don't know if I should feel relieved or sad that there are also other people with the same problem! I know exactly how you feel!
The difference between us is that I don't live with him and I can barely seem him only once a week for a couple of hours and that only if he is not raiding!
And he finds it perfectly normal for me to schedule my time so as to fit his free time from raiding!
I talked to him about it and that the game has won him over me and he says that the problem is mine and he is only playing a few hours (which of course is not true!) He simply doesn't care to spend time with me anymore, he just cares about playing wow!
I am so hurt and disappointed that he can easily throw away 8,5 years of a relationship for this stupid game! Not even a suggestion to spend a day off with me, he spends it with wow and just offers to spend 2-3 hours to go out with me after the end of the raid, as if I was a beggar in this relationship! I even sent him a link of this tribe to make him understand, though I am afraid it's not possible at the point he is right now :(( -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Tue, March 27, 2007 - 6:04 PMWhy stay with him? You already know he's chosen a game over you, is this the kind of man you want to spend the rest of your life with? Is this the kind of person you want to bend your life around?
There are others out there, others who will love you and treat you like a human being, whether or not they play a game in their free time. You should never come second to something like that. Not all WoW players behave this way, and it really breaks my heart to see that so many are opting to use the game as an escape and a cop-out.
I hope everything works out for you, though I know it's going to be tough. I wish you the very best. -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Wed, March 28, 2007 - 4:55 AMMaybe you're right, but it 's not so easy to make that decision when you have spent so many years believing that this person cares for you and is a nice person. Of course you will tell me, people change, I just hope there would be a way to make him understand.
He used to play games before wow , but he had other interests as well, it wasn't like that and of course he had never chosen a game over me.
I don't know why it happens, honestly, how can all these people we describe in here be so blind and pretending that nothing is wrong?
It is just not so easy to leave it behind and say it's over and I don't care anymore. I wish I could be like that, I really do but I am not :(( -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Wed, March 28, 2007 - 6:25 AMNo, it's not easy. You aren't the only one who's been in a situation of long-term relationship vs. personal happiness; I do understand how hard it can be.
People sometimes change, but not always. They have to want to change. He has to want to quit WoW, you have to want to get on with your life, etc.
It's my theory that something else is causing it, that WoW is the excuse 90% of the time and not the actual problem. I have nothing to prove this, but it's my thought on it.
I'm glad you're not like that! It takes a cold person to always be able to do that; but sometimes we have to do things that hurt just to make things better. If the relationship has gone south and he isn't helping to make things work, it isn't fair that you shoulder all of it. It isn't fair that you do everything to keep the relationship going.
Would he make an effort to reconnect with you, if you stopped calling, stopped showing up, stopped being around him for a few weeks? If you aren't ready to take the step of saying goodbye, maybe you could try that. It's hard too, I know. But go out with friends, treat yourself to a movie and dinner with someone you haven't spent time with in a while, curl up with a good book, go hiking, etc. Do things for yourself, and see how long it takes him to notice. Don't go to him, make him come to you. If you've been bending your schedule around his WoW time, it's only fair for him to make a little effort in getting to you.
Out of curiosity, and I mean no offense: Have you been together this long because of marriage, or are you still in a more open relationship? -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Thu, March 29, 2007 - 4:15 PMNo we are not married, it is a relationship. I already do that, I go out with friends and have not called him. He hasn't called me back either, I guess he was offended cause last time we had a conversation I refused to adjust my program according to his raids .
Thanx for your concern, I guess I will just have to wait and see.
Oh and sorry if I have been harsh on you at other topics, but that "i am sooo politically correct attitude" is not leading anywhere, it's not a quart here and I joined cause I thought I could easily express myself. -
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Fri, March 30, 2007 - 1:04 PMIt finally ended with me saying "I don't love you anymore." This was directed at my spouse of 3 and a half years. Little did I know that this was just the beginning of a whole new whirl wind of events. It was true that was the end of his wow addiction. He cancelled his account the next day. It left me with a feeling of too little too late.
Let me give you some background. Wow came out in november of 2004. He bought it the first week of release. I bought it too. Not being a gamer until I met him. I played his other games in the hopes that it would bring us closer together instead of being the wedge between us. I remained a casual player, playing when I could around work, my young daughter, and household chores. He on the other hand became a hard core raider. Playing every moment of his time at home. He would go to work come home around 3:30 and play until 2 3 4...am. Days off from work would result in 18 hour marathons.
He became the third high warlord on his server with playtimes equaling that of college aged adults with no jobs, classes, or significant others, let alone children. The last time I checked his play time he had 135+ days played. That was only his main. He had a few other insignificant characters one of them having about 20 days played.
I spent my pregnancy alone with his addiction to games taking him away from our then one bedroom apartment in search of friends with high speed internet connections. That was all even before wow. Then last april he joined the army national guard. He was to be gone 4 months to basic training. He promised the time before he left in june would be spent with me and our daughter. It was not it was within the game and traveling to our old hometown to meet with RL friends.
He went away to basic and shortly after I started receiving letters about how he was different his priorities had changed and he realized just what his addiction was doing to us at home. Then the promises started I won't play anymore we will work on us. We will start over and work on rebuilding our relationship. Of course I believed him. I wanted the fairytale. The being married one time to the man that I loved the father of my child that I adored.
Things were getting better until mid january when The Burning Crusade expansion came out. Things spiraled downward from there. He became obsessed with getting to max level again with all the loot that surrounds it. He even left our smaller guild for a huge one on another server with rl friends because they were raiding and we didn't have the numbers to do so.
Now I need to bring up the other side to my story. In our small guild I developed a few friendships that was like a support system witnessing all of my toubles. I had now known this online community for over three years total. The one of most importance urged me to get into counseling with my spouse for years. I took his advice to heart but never acted upon it. As my husband retreated into past behaviors with the Burning Crusade I searched the other player out for more and more support. He was having his own troubles and we took a comfort in speaking with each other. Our chat turned to the telephone.
Here is my big dilema. I have now developed romantic feelings for the other guy who has been the support system I haven't received with my marriage. I now have a husband who is trying his hardest to heal the wounds he has inflicted upon me while trying to fix our relationship. One that I am now ready to walk away from after 4+ years of neglect and abandonment.
I also have a man that is interested in extending our relationship but not wanting to be the wedge that makes me leave my husband. Neither one of us want to be the affair that breaks up a marriage. My problem is that the marriage to me already seems over but the guilt of my husband now trying to be the perfect husband is pulling me in all sorts of directions. I find myself waking up thinking about the other guy and full of excitement as to when I will talk to him again. We however refuse to take it to the next step until I am no longer married.
My husband and I are now in counseling. I dread the thought of next week with this triangle being talked about for the first time. Yes, my husband knows everything that is going on with me and the other man. Have you ever heard a more complex love triangle as this? I have yet to come across one.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Fri, March 30, 2007 - 3:04 PMam Jacqueline's husband. After having played WoW since release I have just recently canceled my subscription. I guess I am what one would call a recovering addict. As she said, the extent of my play was well beyond what you could call "healthy". I have logged over 140 days of playtime on my main character alone. This means that I spent almost 6 months of my life in front of my computer playing this game while my wife and daughter suffered. I think I was most deep into my addiction when I was going for High Warlord when the first honor system was released. During that time I was playing 8-12 hours a day on average, sometimes more.
WoW in a lot of ways is like a drug. It provides an escape from reality. It also provides an entire community of people that share the same interest in the game. It also gives a sense of euphoria and accomplishment by completing in game goals or finding in game items to make the character stronger.When I played, I felt good. When I accomplished things in the game, I felt good. That feeling was only multiplied by the community of people that I knew who would give me congratulations when I did something. It was even worse during the HWL grind. Online players would see my character and give me congratulations or say something good that would make want to go more and gain that recognition. When I wasn't playing WoW, I was thinking about it and anticipating the next time I would get to escape to the game. Even when spending time with my wife and child.
During this time my wife would try to talk to me about the extent of my play. She would say things like "you may be addicted" or "you are playing to much". I didn't listen, I thought that things were fine, that there was no way I could be addicted to a video game. Did such an addiction even exist? We had talks about it and sometimes fights and arguments, but nothing ever changed.
One day I decided to join the Army National Guard. I joined to get money for college so I could get the education I needed to finally start the career I always wanted. While I was in training I began to realize just what I had been doing with my life and I didn't like the way it looked. I wrote to her and told her I had changed, which I honestly felt that I had. I told her things would get better between us and I would stop escaping from our life. I even asked to cancel my subscription or sell my account. I don't blame her at all for not doing it, although I really wish she had. When I returned from training I didn't have as strong of an urge to play as I once had. I didn't play for some time once I returned. Then a friend of mine reminded me of the promise I had made to come play on his server with him. I honestly don't know why I agreed to it or why I didn't say something to him about what was going on. Regardless of the reasons behind it, I gave back in to the urge. I started playing again with my friend with promises that the guild I was joining was "casual", that none of them played more than a couple of hours a day.
What a blind fool I was. At first, it was casual. I was spending time with my family, helping out around the house, and patching up my marriage. Then the Burning Crusade expansion came out and everything went right back to the way it at had been.The urge and euphoria had returned. Our marriage began to suffer again.
Then, one day while I was playing, Jackie sat by me and began to speak. The words she said will forever be seared into my mind. She said "I don't think I love you anymore". Right at that moment in time my world came crashing down around me. How could I have been so stupid, so blind? How could I have treated my family this way, the two people I care most about in this world? I can only imagine the amount of hurt and suffering I had inflicted on them. The amount of shame I feel is unimaginable.I can't imagine the amount of resentment and abandonment my wife felt towards me or how much damage I had done to the bond I have with my wife and daughter.
I have been a fool. I would honestly give up every hour I have ever played video games if it would restore the bond I had with my wife an child. All I can do now is hope that maybe one day they will be able to forgive me and to do everything within my means to try and fix what I have done. The truth is, it may be to late. The cost I will pay for my addiction is going to be far more than I ever thought I would pay. It may cost me the two people I care most about in my life.
So, in conclusion, if you have a loved one who you think may be addicted, help them. Please, I beg you, if you care about them at all, find a way to make them realize what they are doing, what they are throwing away. Tell them how you feel. Tell them about the lonely nights you spend without them while they play the game. Have them read these forums and show them they are not alone, that this thing is real. Make them realize before it is too late.
As for anyone who may be addicted and is reading this post. I hope that maybe this has given you some insight or realization as to what you are doing to your loved ones. Listen to the ones who love you, take the time to be with them. Take it from a guy who has experienced it. Losing someone you love because of this game is the worst feeling you could imagine. The cost is far to high.
If you think I am making this up, then go take a look. My characters name is Bluerazer, I played on Destromath. Before that I played on Burning Blade. Look me up on [url] armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&n=Bluerazer [/url] .If that is not enough, make a character on Burning Blade and ask anyone from the guild Liberty just how much I played and the cost I have payed for that playtime.
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Re: world of warcraft is like a drug
Mon, April 2, 2007 - 9:10 AMThank you for sharing and good luck.
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