How do I....

topic posted Mon, March 19, 2007 - 9:37 AM by  Sara
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My boyfriend says he's not addicted. WHATEVER!!! He can't be indoors and not have his computer on to, if not an instance, at least something related to WoW.

So what do I say back when he says, "I'm not out drinking or doing drugs"? What do I say to a man who is shy and has a tough time forming real relationships, to let go of the thing that has allowed him to make new friends, and seems to have held him afloat after his wife left him, he lost his job, he lost his house, and almost most importantly, lost his dog?
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Sara
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  • Re: How do I....

    Mon, March 19, 2007 - 10:59 AM
    Wow it sounds like he has many issues he is dealing with other than a video game. If you focus on just wow I don't think you'll be helping him. If he is escaping because of many issues allow him to escape, but foster events and real life social interactions for him to attend. If he has grabbed ahold of something that helps him cope don't just plain take it away, it has to be replaced.

    I remember my brother playing minesweaper for hours on end after a breakup, but then he was able to cope and move on. They need to heal however they see fit. If he has allot of emotional scarring he needs allot of healing. He is partially right when he says at least he isn't drinking or doing drugs.

    You got involved with him "as is" and if you wish to help him, guide him to positive interactions instead of challenging his current foundation/fallback/escape.

    If you cannot deal with this challenging relationship, look to yourself for answers. You have to do what's right for you and if guiding this person to be who he once was insn't in your wish list maybe you should move on for your own sake. :) Best of luck there are no easy answers. :)
    • Re: How do I....

      Mon, March 19, 2007 - 11:47 AM
      I didn't know how into this thing he was, I thought it was a weekend thing. Now he has stayed at my place for twelve days straight, and the full brunt of what this is has hit the fan. I realize he has issues, but he has weaved this almost fantastical reason for his addiction. He says it's his social life, and that the people he plays with are his friends, but I doubt they share much of anything other than WoW in common. He also tells me that he doesn't play nearly enough as other gamers. And the thing that most hits me is that he apparently is REALLY good at it and he wants to continue being good.
      I'm just trying to come up with a way to get him to play less, and not make him feel like I am being his mommy and telling him what to do.
      Know what I mean?
      • Re: How do I....

        Mon, March 19, 2007 - 1:33 PM
        Hmm can we get some more details? Is he working or has he effectively couch surffed his way into your home and you are now supporting him. If that's the case you are enabling him to do this and some ground rules need to be formed. It is your house, internet and computer you get to dictate how they are used.

        Now if he has just moved in, does work, and has his own computer etc. you still have the right to lay down some rules. Do let him play, but he needs to spend time with you too, he is your boyfriend right?

        From your tone I assume you have not tried the game or know much about it other than he plays it allot. His friends on line are real and he may gain some of the benefirts friendships provide, but it should not be your only social life. How many hours a day does he play? I would compare game time to TV time. If he would otherwise be watching tv with or without you it is fair to him to say that that amount of time is reasonable for game time. However if he is in instances those can be like going to practice for a sport, it is a group effort and it's harder to break away, but it is still possible. Form a schedule with him. Every other day or whatever you agree to for game time vs other time.

        He can still be really good and have a real life. My brother has both. High level end game group instances and cool gear and a buzzing social life and work. He has a schedule and even though he may log in every day even on his off days to check his auctions etc. He does other things.
        • Re: How do I....

          Fri, March 23, 2007 - 7:30 AM
          ouch it sounds like your BF has been through the ringer! but I agree you need to add more details about how he is as a BF when not playing the game. If he is worth it then honestly I would disconnect internet for a little bit ( providing he lives at your place) or if he lives at his give his computer a virus. I know this sounds horrible but I have tried the supportive girlfriend role with playing and just letting him play and it doesn't pan out well unless your trying to escape reality too then you can be a match made in heaven.

          The whole reason of having a partner is being in the real world fighting together in order to gain a bond! You two against the world ! not him in his wow world/ and you in the real world.
          • Re: How do I....

            Fri, March 23, 2007 - 9:10 AM
            Lynn it sounds like you have both poles covered. Give him a virus or ignore it completely. How about trying some middle ground. Be a team there as you mention and teamwork requires communication not seething hate and intolerance. Discuss the wowing habbits and discuss together time. You are not helping by being just the supportive girlfriend and enabling him to walk all over you. Or the covert, snatch it away tactic will only cause a fight. You gotta talk it out. :)
  • Re: How do I....

    Thu, April 5, 2007 - 10:40 PM
    He has to want to change. Look for signs of this : depression, mood swings, sleeplessness, mentioning wanting to quit, etc...

    Also, I noticed that I felt the LEAST like playing, and the MOST disgusted with myself, after playing my ass off till I was exhausted. This is a weak point, when I was much more willing to hear arguments for quitting WoW.

    Have alternatives ready, its a big void, and should be filled with something healthy.
    • Re: How do I....

      Mon, April 23, 2007 - 1:43 PM
      I think he's getting there, he told me about two weeks ago that he was getting bored with it. But then he spent last Friday playing for fifteen hours. I mentioned that to him, and he said, "I took a break". Yeah, for forty-five minutes!!!
      So, I should get him when he's done wasting yet another beautiful day on the computer? I will give it a try, maybe I'll make him punch a timecard in and out so he can see the amount that he plays. And although we have compromised, he cheats at it, he was playing on a Thursday, and told me that it wasn't the same because he wasn't raiding. I need good comebacks, help me out here. He does suffer from depression, so I need to be mindful of that. But in the end I truly believe that the demise of our relationship will be due to his addiction to that stupid game.
      • Re: How do I....

        Mon, April 23, 2007 - 2:05 PM
        The difference between raiding and not raiding is that he is probably not commited to a group. When he is not raiding he is probably playing solo which means he can turn it off any time, compared to being commited to a group effort and not wanting to let every one down in that group.

        When you play solo you tend to be "grinding". Grinding means you are focusing on a goal that requires lots of repetative stuff. For example, you can gain different levels of reputation with groups which will allow you to purchase new and exciting things. That's called grinding rep which usually requires killing thousands of a certain type of monster they dislike. You can turn this arround on him and say "how about grinding some rep with your girlfriend." Rep starts at neurtal and goes to friendly, honored, revered, then exalted. Or it can be taken away and go backwards and down to unfriendly, and hated. You can use this to continue that statement to say "... see what heppens when you get to friendly." It's major geek speak but it'll be his language. Or how about grinding some muscles in the gym. Or grinding some yardwork. I saw a t-shirt that said "I'm not shopping, I'm grinding rep with my girlfriend." There are some fun t-shirts at cafepress.com, just do a search under gaming you can find "WOW stole my boyfriend" and wear it when he is playing.

        The game tracks how much you play too. Ask him to type /played to show you down to the minute how much time has been spent playing that character. You can use this as your time card. Track from day to day. If he says he doesn't have a problem he shouldn't have a problem showing you that whenever you want to see it.

        If he says he just needs to check his acution house that should not take more than 5 minutes. It's like e-bay but for weapons and such.

        Good Luck!

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