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Is it safe to assume that MOST of you here haven't even tried WoW yourself?
Perhaps.
You fear what you don't know, big historical surprise, animosity of the unknown.
WoW is not your problem, it's not WoW itself, if its not WoW it’s something else then, it is the user, it is the structure of the relationship.
I am in a fantastic relationship and I play games, sometimes she joins me.
It’s hard for her to hate something she was shown and is educated about, she understands.
Compromise is important in a relationship, we both understand that and most importantly act on it.
Addicts as you call them have conceivably long lost any respect for you, they see and purely understand your concerns if that doesn’t bother them well then it is time to re-evaluate your relationship from the ground up.
I play WoW and other games but only when we need the time apart we all do in a healthy relationship, she reads a book, watches her soap opera, browses the net, I do what I find interesting and it's to play a damn game, if it's not a game then I go to the gym or take my lab to the lake.
For people in a struggling relationship, your problems go much deeper then WoW, we all have various distractions, interests and blaming WoW for all your problems is being ignorant, neurotic & immature, ESPECIALLY using such strong misguided words like ‘HATE’.
A similar emotional trait found in people who blame video games for adolescent school violence.
This is like a AA meeting gone horribly wrong, where everybody is in a circle, drinking their drink of choice complaining how they have a problem with alcoholism. Got a problem? DO something about it, quit your crying.
Perhaps.
You fear what you don't know, big historical surprise, animosity of the unknown.
WoW is not your problem, it's not WoW itself, if its not WoW it’s something else then, it is the user, it is the structure of the relationship.
I am in a fantastic relationship and I play games, sometimes she joins me.
It’s hard for her to hate something she was shown and is educated about, she understands.
Compromise is important in a relationship, we both understand that and most importantly act on it.
Addicts as you call them have conceivably long lost any respect for you, they see and purely understand your concerns if that doesn’t bother them well then it is time to re-evaluate your relationship from the ground up.
I play WoW and other games but only when we need the time apart we all do in a healthy relationship, she reads a book, watches her soap opera, browses the net, I do what I find interesting and it's to play a damn game, if it's not a game then I go to the gym or take my lab to the lake.
For people in a struggling relationship, your problems go much deeper then WoW, we all have various distractions, interests and blaming WoW for all your problems is being ignorant, neurotic & immature, ESPECIALLY using such strong misguided words like ‘HATE’.
A similar emotional trait found in people who blame video games for adolescent school violence.
This is like a AA meeting gone horribly wrong, where everybody is in a circle, drinking their drink of choice complaining how they have a problem with alcoholism. Got a problem? DO something about it, quit your crying.
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Re: Quit your crying.
Thu, May 25, 2006 - 11:35 PMQuit your crying? are you serious? WoW is evil. I am in the same boat as all these women. I am so glad that I'm not over reacting.
WoW is a watse of time and ruins relationships.
Fair enough play a game but not one that engulfs your life and takes hours upon hours to play
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Re: Quit your crying.
Fri, May 26, 2006 - 1:51 AMI agree with Philip on alot of the things said.
Im the type of person who has always played games and wow is just another one. The only thing that has changed is that one mainly one game instead of about 2-3 games. True you could say that I play alot. But I work 42+ hours aweek so the only time i really get to play is after work during the week. And I only play a couple nights aweek and sometimes for only about 1 hour. I have Fridays off work so I play alot then when my gf is at uni. She thinks that I play to much and gets up set about it. But when I play she feels like im ignoring her. I have been playing alot less the last couple of weeks. But its like its not enough. And well I feel if I started doing somthing else in that time like Play my Game Cueb, PS2 ride my bike what ever it may be she will still feel the same... (this is what i was getting at in the threed I made)
I just feel like it wont matter what your doing the problem will still be there.
As for calling it a waste of time, I feel thats not a fair thing to say. What if you did something that you like doing and everyone said its awaste of time, how would you feel? everyone likes different things and they have the right to do so. And alot of things ruin relationships. I mean it could be somthing alot worse your girlfriend/boyfriend could go out and get drunk take drugs all the time isnt that worse? he/she could not respec you treat you like shit. Which one is worse doing those or playing agame?
Im not saying that its good or its ok to play agame or do somthing else to the point where it makes your partner feel bad. But you also cant make your partner stop doing somthing that they really like doing as it will make them feel bad as we all have teh right to do things we like. And if it does effecting the relationship thats when you need to sit down and figure out a way to deal with it.
I have read in other posts that there is no point or end to the game. And yeah there is no real end. But its up to the player as you could have certain goals like get the highest pvp rank or so on. For me I really like mucking around and talking to people and trying to get gear. I dont get to see my mates much as I work part of the weekend and my mates are generally busy with work as well.So we only catch up everynow and then so I enjoy talking to people in agame and talking about everyday crap that you do with mates. Thats partly why I enjoy playing.
I know I probably pissed alot of people off here. And no im not trying to justify why people play I was just saying what I feel. Also sorry for any spelling mistakes as my spelling isnt that great. ^_~ -
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Re: Quit your crying.
Fri, May 26, 2006 - 4:20 AMDamnit I can't edit my post from before... Anyway.
Human rights: freedom of speech. We can say wow is a waste of time all we like. Just like you can disagree with what we say. It's pretty fair to be able to express ourselves. I've already had this argument with my boyfriend. I know he doesn't like it when I say I'm unhappy about him playing but I say it anyway because you know what? It's good to be honest. And he tells me that he's unhappy about me talking to other guys even though there's nothing I can do about it and I'm not going to stop talking to the other half of the human race just because it upsets him. Ok, and what if I was doing something that I liked doing and everyone said its a waste of time? They are entitled to their opinion as I am entitled to mine. I've had 18 years of it from my own mother so yeah... I don't see anything wrong with expressing your opinion. It's up to the other party how they react. They can be defensive like you seem to be or they can take it like it is; an opinion.
Oh and your question as to which is worse, taking drugs/drinking or playing a game, I personally feel that they are both equally bad.
I agree with this though: "But you also cant make your partner stop doing somthing that they really like doing as it will make them feel bad as we all have teh right to do things we like." Very true. That's why there's this dilemma... Should we let them do this thing that they really like but we definitely don't like or should we take away their right of doing things they like? Very weird sentence by the way.
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Re: Quit your crying.
Fri, May 26, 2006 - 4:04 AMHow should I say this... Not everybody is the same. Philip, if you are one of the lucky ones, good for you for being in a nice relationship. But maybe you should be a bit more sensitive to the not so lucky ones. Many of us feel like the person we fell in love with has left us when they started playing wow and many of us have not just sat on our hands and done nothing like you seem to suggest. We have tried to talk to them.
But when people have problems, they like to talk about them. In this case, if we tried to talk to our partners about this, they get defensive and do not want to listen. So, yes I guess you could say this is like an AA meeting or something. It's a support group to let people know that they're not alone with dealing with this problem. It's hard to go it alone you know.
Now, not all wow players are that bad and I'm guessing you, Philip, are one of them. That's great, I admire you for having self-control. It sounds like you have found a balance in your relationship for wow-playing to exist. But unfortunately, many people are not like you and maybe a bit too immature to compromise in a relationship. You might say that this has nothing to do with wow. But I say, it doesn't exactly help the situation does it? Nobody's perfect and yes we all do have problems. But it's very hard to fix them if there is something dangling in front of your nose to distract you. And that is what wow is. Like a box of cigarettes presented in front of you while you're trying to quit smoking. Pretty hard to quit won't you say?
So as for your last sentence, yes we do have a problem and yes we have tried to do something about it. But no, we're not crying, we're just looking for support to help us get through this. I don't know if this happened to you but surely when you were little, you've fallen and scrapped your knee or something and someone comforted you and helped you put on a bandaid? Wouldn't it feel horrible to have that someone tell you to quit crying and do something about it? -
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Re: Quit your crying.
Thu, March 1, 2007 - 2:52 AMYou give a reference to cigarettes.
I heard an advert on the radio this morning about cutting down in small doses until you eventually dont feel the need to smoke anymore.
Maybe the addicts of WoW should try this too. Cut down their playing time considerably until they no longer want to play it. Being a WoW player myself, I know this would be extremely hard, but doable.
I think as some people have said, the problem lies deeper than just video game. It takes more than that to destroy a relationship. To ignore their loved ones to the extent which I have read on these forums suggests to me something was bad in the relationship before WoW. Maybe the relationship was doomed anyway, and WoW is just an escape?
I feel sorry for the affected partners. I play a lot, but would never let it come before my girlfriend or going out with my mates. Having said that, we dont live together, so my experiences aren't too reliable!
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Re: Quit your crying.
Thu, April 5, 2007 - 11:00 PMYou are ignorant.
You said, "I play WoW and other games but only when we need the time apart we all do in a healthy relationship, she reads a book, watches her soap opera, browses the net, I do what I find interesting and it's to play a damn game, if it's not a game then I go to the gym or take my lab to the lake. "
You are the one that does not play WoW. You probably think a lvl 40 human pally is high end. The people here are desperately searching for ways to help people that are TRULY addicted, people that are watching loved ones lives go down the drain, due to WoW. You, clearly aren't, and to tell these people to "Quit your crying" tells me that you have an inferiority complex and feel the need to compensate by flexing your small e-peen to people who dont care what you think.
